tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post5445944211351847877..comments2023-11-03T06:02:02.128-07:00Comments on By Ken Levine: Aaron Sorkin responds to a commenter in my blogBy Ken Levinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17305293821975250420noreply@blogger.comBlogger117125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-38771478944425388882021-02-11T07:40:22.328-08:002021-02-11T07:40:22.328-08:00do you recommend any movie to watch the whole one....do you recommend any movie to watch the whole one. ?? if there is please tell me name to watch ?aghahttps://biiboys.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-36316320668290218432015-02-20T14:39:07.383-08:002015-02-20T14:39:07.383-08:00I have yet to see a movie in which all of the stra...I have yet to see a movie in which all of the straight white guys are portrayed as stupid, useless or annoying. All of them that is. While women indulge in their self-centered activities that only value men as trophies.Ioana D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-50430941904937202982014-06-17T16:41:41.840-07:002014-06-17T16:41:41.840-07:00Wow. If guys are such studs, why don't you sto...Wow. If guys are such studs, why don't you stop carping about women's inferiority and start a company yourself. <br /><br />Zuckerberg, for all his supposed sexism, made a huge, irreversible contribution to human communication. <br /><br />What's your claim to fame? Complaining about your female boss?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-692215236162235992013-07-05T08:30:33.925-07:002013-07-05T08:30:33.925-07:00i got to agree with Mike on this one.i got to agree with Mike on this one.andrewhttp://onchannel.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-91539185685364367852012-09-09T16:29:31.852-07:002012-09-09T16:29:31.852-07:00Aaron is a super nice guy. The only people that gi...Aaron is a super nice guy. The only people that give him problems are jealous people. Mikehttp://www.rawhoney.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-71327302240113309852011-08-28T08:43:58.389-07:002011-08-28T08:43:58.389-07:00Fantastic and simple explanation. I saw it all thi...Fantastic and simple explanation. I saw it all this way while watching the film, so I (as a woman) didn't have any of these sexism issues that others have brought up since Social Network hit theaters.<br /><br />I also felt that it was incredibly meaningful that this film gave two women (Rooney and Rashida) the first and last words about Zuckerberg. Their comments bookend the film perfectly, along with Zuckerberg's final action before the closing credits (friending "Erica" and refreshing his page over and over again to see if she responds)charliehttp://woomag.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-40044077096377888332011-06-29T17:34:24.281-07:002011-06-29T17:34:24.281-07:00when i first saw the movie this was the exact theo...when i first saw the movie this was the exact theory i had for the way the girls were portrayed in the film.though rasheeda was a far cry from these girls she did have a smaller role.i saw the characters not there genders so much.the fact that aaron had to explain this and that he so graciously chose to do is something i admire.but this was pointed out to me by a friend who till very recently didn't see the film.and it was this friend who pointed this out as something objectionable..it's not that i don't take offence at poor portrayal of women in films but it extends to certain shows only.Project Curvehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847029714989062215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-52530319352092438472011-01-07T03:45:46.596-08:002011-01-07T03:45:46.596-08:00It didn't bother me at all. I saw it as a refl...It didn't bother me at all. I saw it as a reflection on the boys, not the girls.<br /><br />One suggestion, though. In the sequel, there should be more gunfights and explosions.yAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-72189089512460922062010-11-13T23:38:00.879-08:002010-11-13T23:38:00.879-08:00Andrew said:
Fincher is as much at fault. His mast...Andrew said:<br /><i>Fincher is as much at fault. His masturbatory promise of gruesome death in Seven contradicts the conservative moralizing of Morgan Freeman's character. Which are we supposed to identify with? How many people like Seven because of its message?</i><br /><br />Not sure what your point is here. Didn’t you point out to someone else that we aren’t talking about other movies? Anyway, I liked Seven for the formal qualities, mostly. Amy Taubin (I think it was) correctly described it as great filmmaking, without being a great film. She’s right. Fincher didn’t write the script for Seven, which I thought was pretty dumb, morally.<br /><br /><i> The film [The Social Network] is also primarily about Zuckerberg. Though, not entirely. It betrays its own study of him by allowing us to connect with some peripheral characters. Mainly Eduardo. Why else would we feel sorry for him if we are entirely from Zuckerberg's perspective.</i><br /><br />The film is primarily about Zuckerberg, but also about the principal characters in the legal disputes over facebook (around which the plot was constructed) – that being Zuckerberg, Eduardo and the Winklevoss twins; those characters aren’t “peripheral”. The Social Network is in part a character study, true. But I’m not sure why you think the film betrays its study of (the fictional) Zuckerberg just because it also allows us to connect with other characters.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766545363197498449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-69867469674066091502010-11-13T23:34:45.729-08:002010-11-13T23:34:45.729-08:00David Kirkpatrick said:
The relationship with &qu...David Kirkpatrick said:<br /><br /><i>The relationship with "Erica Albright" is as made up as her name. The first scene is entirely invented. All Sorkin had to work with to create it was Zuckerberg writing in his journal "--- is a bitch." He used that to imagine why Zuckerberg might think that a girl is a bitch. This is from Sorkin's imagination and not from reality.</i><br /><br />I didn’t know much about the history and development of facebook before I saw this film, yet even so it was obvious to me that that opening scene was a very much fictional part of a basically fictional movie based on factual events. Zuckerberg made some misogynistic comments when he was angry and drunk. I’m willing to cut him a little slack for that – we all said and did stupid things when we’re young. (On the other hand, I’ve never made misogynistic comments sober or drunk – you can’t blame state of mind on just alcohol.) But Sorkin can certainly use this to speculate about the sort of things that someone like that might have said and done to get there. Has Sorkin or Fincher really claimed this was a documentary?Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766545363197498449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-78708393948103353122010-11-13T23:17:28.278-08:002010-11-13T23:17:28.278-08:00- Dirk Johanson said (in the comments of the blog ...- Dirk Johanson said (in the comments of the blog post he linked to):<br /><i>When a guy of Sorkin’s stature is reduced to feeling compelled to respond to some regular broad commenting on a blog, you know that the standing of guys in the United States is incredibly low.</i><br /><br />He responded to the <b>comments</b>; it doesn’t matter whether they were made by ‘a regular broad’ or Michelle Obama. He was presumably aware of them because he sometimes reads Ken’s blog. If he thinks those comments make a case that is worth addressing, why shouldn’t he address them? It has nothing to do with your paranoia over the standing of men. <br /><br /><i>... to see how wrong you are, click on this and scroll toward the bottom of the page: http://guyinism.com/dirksxploits/gay-guyinist-goofs/ </i><br /><br />Umm, it’s a metaphor. I doubt Karin really cares about the size of your penis. The suggestion is that you’re insecure in some ways in regard to women. A point supported by your perplexing need to link to an image of your penis to show the woman how ‘wrong’ she was.<br /><br /><i>I'm having trouble discerning what facts (plural) I got wrong.</i><br /><br />Oh come on, you got at least one wrong and you must know it (go back and look at your rhetorical question/answer): you said women like her don’t start their own companies because they don’t have the requisite drive, determination, and/or reasoning ability.<br />She started her own company. You’re wrong on a point of fact, QED.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766545363197498449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-16603148294105090822010-11-13T23:12:49.785-08:002010-11-13T23:12:49.785-08:00There are responses to many people in these next p...There are responses to many people in these next posts of mine, so look for your name – you know you want to:<br /><br />- Emily Blake wrote:<br /><br /><i>It didn't bother me at all. I saw it as a reflection on the boys, not the girls.<br /><br />One suggestion, though. In the sequel, there should be more gunfights and explosions.</i><br /><br />Agreed on both counts. <br /><br />- Anonymous at 10/11/10 6.08 said:<br /><br /><i>Political Suggestions about women's Rights: </i><br /><br />Having trouble getting a date, huh. You should join a social networking site.<br /><br />- Melissa Peltier said:<br /><br /><i>...because all those guys were our default heroes and our story protagonists, because they were funny and loveable and sympathetic in their own way, the misogyny invariably comes off as cute and cool and fun, and mostly without consequences, both to the boys and to the girls who were objectified.</i><br /><br /><br />I agree that the characters were, to a degree, perhaps ‘funny and loveable’ or at least partly sympathetic in their own way, but I didn’t find any of the misogynistic aspects (and I agree there were some) to be ‘cute and cool’. And the misogyny clearly did have consequences – this was, in large part, the point of the film.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766545363197498449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-6684203879819431922010-11-13T19:39:19.818-08:002010-11-13T19:39:19.818-08:00Anon of 10/14/10 8.35AM:
There is no way that is a...Anon of 10/14/10 8.35AM:<br /><i>There is no way that is actually Sorkin. Even Sorkin knows that facemash.com had comparisons between both men and women. </i><br />This was covered already - do try and keep up.<br /><br /><i>And Sorkin wasn't involved in choosing which scenes to cut, which writer usually is?</i><br />He was talking about cutting from his script. And anyway a writer/producer of Sorkin's standing will have influence over a movie beyond the scripting.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766545363197498449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-76404948536780785412010-10-31T12:00:00.548-07:002010-10-31T12:00:00.548-07:00The script made the points described about misogyn...The script made the points described about misogyny quite clearly, but I wish the direction and cinematography had served them better.KWRKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-15710771469372807702010-10-22T08:44:01.346-07:002010-10-22T08:44:01.346-07:00I hope Mr. Sorkin has an opportunity to answer thi...I hope Mr. Sorkin has an opportunity to answer this question: I've read that Mark Zuckerberg has had the same girlfriend since college, Priscilla Chan, now a med student in SF. So why not portray that women, a Harvard-educated med student (presumable not a bimbo)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-79833340849661836892010-10-21T16:47:35.392-07:002010-10-21T16:47:35.392-07:00I was really glad to read Sorkin's response. I...I was really glad to read Sorkin's response. I loved The Social Network, I thought it crafted a great story out of the string of lawsuits, and to me, it explained a lot about the nature of Facebook. But I did see quite a bit of misogyny in the movie, which I commented about in my blog (www.trendswatcher.com). After I posted, somebody called my attention to Sorkin's response in this blog. I thought his response was intelligent and satisfactory. (I posted that too.) I don't know what Zuckerberg's personality is like right now, I don't have reason to doubt that he's probably evolved and matured since his college days. But if we ever want to make a concerted statement against misogyny, all we have to do is deactivate our Facebook pages, at least for a day.Trendswatcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01324287824519459693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-71460342866659425032010-10-19T15:35:43.058-07:002010-10-19T15:35:43.058-07:00I'd like to see Sorkin defend his attitude tha...I'd like to see Sorkin defend his attitude that these are 'very angry and deeply misogynistic people' when Mark Zuckerberg's long-term partner is completely written out from The Social Network. It would seem that he is making these accusations based on the fiction of his own writing rather than truth or anything resembling a fact. <br /><br />Of course I doubt we'll hear anything from Mr Sorkin on this one.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457015876795231656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-72525622969681386782010-10-19T06:27:38.008-07:002010-10-19T06:27:38.008-07:00@Hotchick 1987.
I shouldn't comment in such...@Hotchick 1987. <br /><br />I shouldn't comment in such a hurry, especially when I'm about to hit the sack. Upon reflection, what you wrote is actually kinda funny.<br /><br />R u really a hot chick born in 1987? If so, we should go out. <br /><br /><br /><br />Well, at least I should want to go out with you. I don't know why in hell you'd really want anything to do with middle-aged rogue like me. <br /><br />Shoot me an email, anyway - my address is DirkJohanson@guyinism.com. Its on my blog in case it doesn't show here.DirkJohansonhttp://guyinism.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-34482459036433241482010-10-18T20:10:05.603-07:002010-10-18T20:10:05.603-07:00Add Hotchick 1987 to the list of women who threw u...Add Hotchick 1987 to the list of women who threw up the white flag by insulting my sexuality.<br /><br />First Obama London said I had a small dick, until I demonstrated otherwise with a link to my blog, "The Balls Monologues."<br /><br />Hotchick 1987 - who listed a grand total of eight women, including one who she couldn't name, "Wonder Woman," and another who has done little other than ride her husband's coattails - has leveled one of the other standard concessions by a woman who has lost an argument to a guy - which is pretty much every time a woman has a written argument with a guy, since reason and rationality are far more likely to prevail in written discussions than in oral arguments. Specifically, Hotchick 1987's accusation is that I can't get laid.<br /><br />Well, sorry to disappoint you, sweetie, but I was with three women last Saturday night, I've been paid porn talent, and none other than elite porn star Jenny Hendrix once wanted to have sex with me. See http://guyinism.com/uncategorized/jenny-hendrix-wanted-to-fuck-me/<br /><br />Its not that I don't get laid, honey. Rather, its that I get it enough that I don't have to take crap from women.<br /><br />Wonder Woman .... At least Hotchick 1987 has a sense of humor.DirkJohansonhttp://guyinism.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-30202342360412798832010-10-18T16:26:52.854-07:002010-10-18T16:26:52.854-07:00Aaron sorkin you're my screenwriting hero. A ...Aaron sorkin you're my screenwriting hero. A lot of people dont get that a writer is not, aside from an uberpersonal project, writing themselves. They're writing from a characters perspective, and in your case a real person. I never for a minute would ever think you were sexist. In fact, the female characters you created in the west wing and the subject matter you covered makes me certain you love and respect women. Smart is sexy. Thanks for an amazing show and an amazing film :) and youre right, Im a woman of substance and i wouldnt go near those dudes.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04020590212502038387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-18918936141344154442010-10-18T15:07:53.456-07:002010-10-18T15:07:53.456-07:00just a side thought- why is the portrayel of the w...just a side thought- why is the portrayel of the women that are engaging in sexual activity automatically interpreted as them being 'loose/whores'... while the men engaging in the SAME activity does not even give them even a inch of criticism... geesh times are still sooo backwards!!! (bumps head on wall repeatedly)wtfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-10879402077089147352010-10-16T19:51:27.802-07:002010-10-16T19:51:27.802-07:00Kevin --
Check Nikki Finke's column today. Y...Kevin --<br /><br />Check Nikki Finke's column today. You've arrived!!!<br /><br />PRWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-44784242605607911872010-10-16T19:19:35.985-07:002010-10-16T19:19:35.985-07:00Every woman I saw with thought the movie truly lac...Every woman I saw with thought the movie truly lacked any larger than life women characters - which truly are on every campus these days, let alone on an Ivy League Campus.<br />Mr Sorkin - please know that a guy who went to Exeter would simply not have encountered or be aware of such women.<br /> Boo, I am a woman and want to be larger than life. ThxUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11275130595726356754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-52717022650694415042010-10-16T17:02:56.787-07:002010-10-16T17:02:56.787-07:00Hey Dickhead/Dirck Johnson
Women achievers who se...Hey Dickhead/Dirck Johnson<br /><br />Women achievers who set the world on fire:<br /><br />AYN RAND<br />JOAN OF ARC<br />MARGARET THATCHER<br />OPRAH<br />HILLARY<br />WONDER WOMAN<br />MARIE CURIE ("Mother of Modern Physics" -- pioneer in research about radioactivity, a word she coined)<br />the Monkees' mom who invested Liquid Paper -Whiteout.<br /><br />So FU -- you pig.<br /><br />You sound like a bitter guy who can't get laid.<br /><br />http://womenshistory.about.com/od/biographies/a/women_science.htm<br /><br />http://womenshistory.about.com/od/biographies/a/women_science.htmHotchick1987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-90153415362385283172010-10-15T21:52:13.309-07:002010-10-15T21:52:13.309-07:00Cool. It was my first reaction to the movie and I&...Cool. It was my first reaction to the movie and I'm glad I found this. Classy.@daynamanningnoreply@blogger.com