tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post5634920470621813575..comments2023-11-03T06:02:02.128-07:00Comments on By Ken Levine: My review of 42By Ken Levinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17305293821975250420noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-21242873524494642632013-05-13T19:31:42.616-07:002013-05-13T19:31:42.616-07:00I just saw the film today and can confirm what a f...I just saw the film today and can confirm what a few commenters suspected, Red Barber does say,"Barring a miracle comeback, the Dodgers are going to the World Series." So in that sense, they got the final scene right, but they took some creative license having it happen at the end of the game rather than the 4th inning, and I believe the depicted game only clinched a tie of the pennant. The Dodgers won the next day to actually win the pennant.Rob Tabornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-81401954696290739482013-04-25T19:28:23.048-07:002013-04-25T19:28:23.048-07:00Check out the new release from SHOUTfactory. Jacki...Check out the new release from SHOUTfactory. Jackie Robinson:My Story starring Stephen Hill. A great way to tell Jackie's story ^ <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-15889270498420850062013-04-24T11:27:06.994-07:002013-04-24T11:27:06.994-07:00I loved 42 . I just wish they would have shown Jac...I loved 42 . I just wish they would have shown Jackie playing in Montreal. They loved him there but I guess that would have killed the arc.vibratohttp://www.vibratosfetishworld.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-75719883805323097692013-04-24T11:15:54.664-07:002013-04-24T11:15:54.664-07:00Jackie Robinson wasn't the first black man in ...Jackie Robinson wasn't the first black man in baseball, he was at best the third. The early Players Union's got the owners to agree to their demand to keep out the competition. If Branch Rickey had waited too long, then after the new collective bargaining agreements, they might have been kept out at the insistence of the players unions again.MikeNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-34808676902642291272013-04-24T06:55:13.629-07:002013-04-24T06:55:13.629-07:00I know nothing about baseball, but my blogger frie...I know nothing about baseball, but my blogger friend Uncle Scoopy at www.othercrap.com is a major baseball fanatic, and he added this, which you might find interesting: <br /><br />The movie is generally accurate and is worth a watch, especially if you love baseball and/or American history, but I have to nitpick one element.<br /><br />At one point ol' Red Barber is up in the broadcast booth near the end of the 1947 season and announces that Robinson had 27 stolen bases with NO "caught stealing."<br /><br />This was a major error on the part of the filmmakers and their researchers. True, the baseball record books show no caught stealing for Robinson in 1947, but they show no "caught stealing" for ANYONE in the National League in 1947!<br /><br />Is this because the NL catchers of that era really sucked?<br /><br />No. It is because "caught stealing" was not an official NL statistic until 1951.<br /><br />However, Retrosheet has been working on assembling various stats that were not kept officially in earlier times, and they have concluded that Jackie Robinson actually led the league in "caught stealing" in 1947 (actually tied with his teammate Pete Reiser). He stole 29 bases and was caught 11 times, which is a decent ratio, but not a distinguished one. The following year his steals dropped to 22 and his caught stealing increased to 14, a rather poor ratio by today's standards, but good for that era. The 29 stolen bases in 1947 did lead the league by a mile, and represented a revolutionary achievement during an era when the stolen base was almost a forgotten element of the game. The second place guy in the NL (Reiser again) had only 14!Pat Reedernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-10717202260184814262013-04-23T15:27:54.368-07:002013-04-23T15:27:54.368-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09216705763011665828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-17035168911344680472013-04-23T14:23:53.994-07:002013-04-23T14:23:53.994-07:00I love your baseball posts!
Best sport in the worl...I love your baseball posts!<br />Best sport in the world.chuckcdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-52784143912325413212013-04-23T12:50:11.925-07:002013-04-23T12:50:11.925-07:00Whoever said that Chapman never issued a string of...Whoever said that Chapman never issued a string of racial epithets and only threw a black cat on the field should do their research. He did scream the N word at Jackie, and much more and, worse, was joined by several of his team members. He was not on the field; he was standing outside his dugout, exactly as portrayed in the movie. He was a bad, bad man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-31594808578811651132013-04-22T15:14:05.125-07:002013-04-22T15:14:05.125-07:00I can't wait to see this! Oh, wait a minute. I...I can't wait to see this! Oh, wait a minute. I live in the UK. Argh!Johnny Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13302545167970532080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-31762473564003436622013-04-22T13:24:29.536-07:002013-04-22T13:24:29.536-07:00Thank you SB, I was thinking did jgard actually se...Thank you SB, I was thinking did jgard actually see the movie. When Pee Wee put his arm around Jackie he remarked that some family members were in the crowd, because they were in Cincinnati which was close to home. Before people comment they really should pay better attention to the movie. I thought it was a beautifully told story that young kids especially would get something out of. Also the use of the N word in context with the times would give them a better understanding of the breath of the hate toward blacks, Jews, Italians,etc.,which was also touched on. Love your review Ken! ThanksSuenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-83795901250272944612013-04-22T12:30:19.900-07:002013-04-22T12:30:19.900-07:00Jgard, you're wrong. Just saw the movie last ...Jgard, you're wrong. Just saw the movie last night, and the scene in the film where Pee Wee puts his arm around Jackie occurs in Cincinnati with the Dodgers in away uniforms. The film got it correct.SBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-21881991583904786332013-04-22T11:06:13.361-07:002013-04-22T11:06:13.361-07:00I had majour problems with it but then revisionist...I had majour problems with it but then revisionist history always bugs me. If youre going to do a bio pic get the facts straight. Someone we both know Ken said so many events portrayed were inaccurate. Some were trivial like right handed batters hitting left and vice versa, same with pitchers but bigger things were butchered. Ben Chapman lever left the dugout to go on the field to shout the N word. He was the Phils manager who tossed the black cat on the field. A far more effective and graphic event than what they concocted. The Reese arm around Robinson's shoulder according to the film happened in Brooklyn, theyre wearing white home uniforms. Rather that happened in Cincinnati, across the river from Pee Wee's Kentucky home. Cincinnati was and still is a Southern type town making the actual event so much more significant. Ken when did Robinson develop a street tough New York sounding accent? Never was the term loosely based so appropriate.<br />Jay Z the racist who brought back the N word on the sound track? If Mr. Robinson ever saw what they did to his story, he would start vomiting and never stop.jgard7591https://www.blogger.com/profile/14186751135968029583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-38210478010101319002013-04-22T10:20:28.686-07:002013-04-22T10:20:28.686-07:00My kids were raised around baseball. And they all ...My kids were raised around baseball. And they all knew Jackie was the man that broke the color barrier. But I was surprised that all 3 saw the 42 movie separate, and they all thought it was AWESOME! Now I thought it was very good,but not awesome. I think the thing that got to them, was all the stuff that Jackie went thru. I guess it's one thing to tell a generation this what this man did and another to "see" what this man did..Fred Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-8772590806416691432013-04-22T09:37:15.979-07:002013-04-22T09:37:15.979-07:00The "top of the ninth" ending is not a p...The "top of the ninth" ending is not a problem for me. Every baseball scene in this movie selects just one moment from the game, and the climactic scene is no different. Excellent, inspiring film!Tednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-81666673400165955722013-04-22T09:36:39.282-07:002013-04-22T09:36:39.282-07:00Doesn't "Red Barber" explain the &qu...Doesn't "Red Barber" explain the "top of the ninth" issue? He says something like "barring an incredible comeback, the Dodgers are going to win the pennant." <br /><br />Although, if it was supposed to be <a href="http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1947/B09170PIT1947.htm" rel="nofollow">this game</a>, it was really a solo shot in the 4th inning. Regardless, these are all small issues in the grand scheme of things.Scott Langenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-21825614546299772762013-04-22T09:33:08.814-07:002013-04-22T09:33:08.814-07:00There is another small, but poignant, entry in Hol...There is another small, but poignant, entry in Hollywood’s portrayal of Jackie Robinson. In the mid ‘90s, there was a film, “Smoke,” about a Brooklyn cigar shop. After the filming was over, they used the sets and some of the actors a few more days to film a series of cigar-shop vignettes that appeared to be largely improvised. Several big names (Lily Tomlin, Michael J. Fox, Roseanne) appear in a sketch, and the collection was released under the title “Blue in the Face.”<br /> <br />The scenes are connected with impressions about Brooklyn from real-life residents. Of course, the Dodger departure is chronicled, and the one “plot” that runs through the movie culminates in a dream encounter with Jackie. It’s only a small part of the movie, but it touches on Robinson’s meaning to Brooklyn, the toll his struggle took on him, and how it’s easier to rail against greed from a distance than when the dollars and cents are yours.<br /> <br />Given the nature of the film, it’s no surprise that “Blue in the Face” is uneven as a whole. It still airs occasionally on the indie-film channels, but the best way to watch it might be in a medium where you can skip through the vignettes you don’t enjoy. <br />chalmersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-18607317725548006862013-04-22T09:05:35.408-07:002013-04-22T09:05:35.408-07:00I thought 42 was overwrought, schmaltzy, and often...I thought 42 was overwrought, schmaltzy, and often felt more like a Hallmark Hall of Fame movie rather than a major motion picture.<br /><br />However, because it's such a moving story, I still enjoyed it for the most part. Oh, and I caught that world series winning call in the top of the 9th, too. Bugged me.Kevin Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-70453803686396168632013-04-22T08:48:19.274-07:002013-04-22T08:48:19.274-07:00Two things, Ken. First, I personally liked THE JAC...Two things, Ken. First, I personally liked THE JACKIE ROBINSON STORY - except for the annoyance of the racist players on the other teams wearing blank uniforms; done for legal reasons, no doubt. Okay, Robinson was no Laurence Olivier (and I'm an actor myself), but whatever technical deficiencies his acting and the movie itself had, I was deeply moved by it on a visceral level aided, I think, by the fact that it was Robinson playing himself. Secondly, Jackie Robinson was NOT the first black in Major League ball - a mistaken assertion also made in the JACKIE ROBINSON STORY. Moses "Fleetwood" Walker and his brother played for the Providence club of the American Association - then a Major League - in the 1880s whereupon Cap Anson and other racists in baseball subsequently created the so-called "color barrier" which Jackie Robinson broke. Having said that, I can't wait to see 42. Thanks for the review.VincentSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-66054204846338084962013-04-22T07:37:01.939-07:002013-04-22T07:37:01.939-07:00Oh, let's throw in another SEMI SPOILER ALERT....Oh, let's throw in another SEMI SPOILER ALERT. In one scene, Jackie switches on the radio in Wendell Smith's car to avoid listening to him. The music comes on immediately. In 1947, car radios had tubes and needed to warm up. That scene would have had about 20 seconds of awkward waiting if they stayed true to the times, though, so we'll give them a pass. I got confused by the scene Ken's SPOILER ALERT because the Dodgers were wearing their home uniforms in that scene and I wondered why they cut in a scene of Branch listening to the game on the Ebbets Field speakers. When the game winning call was made, it confused me even more. END OF SPOILER CRAP.<br /><br />Still...an outstanding movie. Go. Go today.Howard Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05377628524697677407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-85343110714748830712013-04-22T07:23:40.182-07:002013-04-22T07:23:40.182-07:00Ken, I haven't seen it, but there's anothe...Ken, I haven't seen it, but there's another problem. Brooklyn was still recreating road broadcasts in 1947. It was only in the middle of the next season that they started broadcasting live from the road, and, when they did, Red Barber worked with a marvelous broadcaster named Connie Desmond. The two of them together trained Young Scully.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01998867386294693956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-44140578435740108272013-04-22T07:14:41.882-07:002013-04-22T07:14:41.882-07:00"Today I learned the White Sox ushered in the..."Today I learned the White Sox ushered in the modern era in 2005."<br /><br />Gee, I've known this all along.<br /><br />Haven't seen the movie yet -- and I never saw the 1950 movie either. But I read Robinson's autobiography, <i>I Never Had It Made</i>. Not your standard sports fare at all. Powerful, sad, inspirational.The Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723009641287783218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-68172928629107353992013-04-22T06:58:11.160-07:002013-04-22T06:58:11.160-07:00The Jackie Robinson story aired recently and I cou...The Jackie Robinson story aired recently and I couldn't watch the whole thing, it was so bad. <br />42 is rememarkable in that you really wanted to root for Robinson just to see the disgust on the racists. It was a great movie experience. Also the first movie that I've seen in years where the audience aplauded at the end.Mike Barerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14447874605833321732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-9457858063083120512013-04-22T06:24:00.634-07:002013-04-22T06:24:00.634-07:00"Dear Jackie Robinson,
You may have been mis..."Dear Jackie Robinson,<br /><br />You may have been miscast in the movie about your life. Take it from me, you wouldn't be the first person to be told that a part you thought you were best to play wasn't the best choice.<br /><br />Yours truly,<br />Carl Reiner"Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17850672682992802562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-90258462962411314072013-04-22T06:18:01.322-07:002013-04-22T06:18:01.322-07:00I learn so much from this blog. Today I learned th...I learn so much from this blog. Today I learned the White Sox ushered in the modern era in 2005. <br /><br />Oh, and the movie is very good, too.<br /><br />The best way to start your day is this blog.bensonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-31011161525681526912013-04-22T06:16:44.230-07:002013-04-22T06:16:44.230-07:00I liked 42 a lot, but think it would have been bet...I liked 42 a lot, but think it would have been better with period music instead of the over-the-top score that kept you thinking the gates of heaven were about to open.Michael Hillnoreply@blogger.com