tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post6559351066433988535..comments2023-11-03T06:02:02.128-07:00Comments on By Ken Levine: Reviewing shows on NETFLIXBy Ken Levinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17305293821975250420noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-68146640048124879512015-06-21T10:57:42.116-07:002015-06-21T10:57:42.116-07:00@ RCP:
I don't know how old you are or whether...@ RCP:<br />I don't know how old you are or whether you were around then, but to a certain extent the whole "support our troops" thing is a tangential issue. The men and women who fought in Vietnam can deal with the Fonda issue and come to terms as they wish (for the record, my lottery number was high so I did not fight in Vietnam).<br />But it is much more than that and it is a matter of record. It was Fonda's sneering contempt for America before, during and after the North Vietnam sojourn. She glorified Ho Chi Minh and the Vietnamese socialism (the latter in a well-known speech at Berkeley in early 1973 on You Tube), at the expense of the United States, where she had the advantage of every privilege, material and otherwise.<br /> I don't think she should be tried for treason, like some of the heard-core vets do, because it was her right to express her dissent, as millions of others did. But her excuses and protestations of loving her country wear very thin when you see what she said at the time. For the record, she also funded and supported some very nasty homegrown terror groups that included bombers, and vicious murderers (see Weathermen, Soledad Brothers, BLA). Again, within her Constitutional rights but let's not kid ourselves about what her views were.<br />And also, it's amazing how quickly she forgot about Vietnamese socialism after 1975 and the Communists took over. While the North Vietnamese were killing thousands and the Boat People were trying to escape as hundreds of thousands died, she was filming California Suite and Fun With Dick and jane in Malibu. Right around the same time the wonderful Southeast Asian socialism she extolled was working its magic in the form of the Khmer Rouge, who killed 2 million out of 7 million Cambodians. This was a direct consequence of the North Vietnamese victory and happened less than 300 miles from Saigon/Ho Chi Minh City. I've tried to google Jane and anything she might have said about the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot but I come up empty.<br />As i said, all this is a matter of record, whatever version Jane gives you today. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-30310904047327840012015-06-21T10:35:31.926-07:002015-06-21T10:35:31.926-07:00Yeah, I know what you mean. It totally destroyed t...Yeah, I know what you mean. It totally destroyed the book business.Kaleberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05283840743310507878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-58587462824862976652015-06-20T17:10:27.392-07:002015-06-20T17:10:27.392-07:00Anonymous:
Then it’s a matter of deciding whether...Anonymous:<br /><br />Then it’s a matter of deciding whether Fonda is being truthful or not; but presuming to know her motives (doing it for her career) and inner thoughts is not the same as knowing them for fact. I understand people's feelings and long-simmering anger (my uncle is no fan), but it’s curious that the level of vitriol that has been focused on Fonda by those who profess to ‘support our troops’ has not (unless I’ve missed it) also been focused on those who lie about the necessity of war, who send soldiers into battle without proper equipment, who turn a blind eye to veteran suicides and homelessness, or who regularly seek to cut veterans’ benefits and programs.RCPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251247613686669877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-79361352861314870742015-06-20T11:55:17.912-07:002015-06-20T11:55:17.912-07:00When I first watched CITIZEN KANE, I knew Rosebud ...When I first watched CITIZEN KANE, I knew Rosebud was the sled. Didn't ruin my appreciation of the film. Whenever we watch or read something a second or third time, we know the ending, but if it's good for reasons other than a twist or a reveal, well, then it's actually good. In fact, teasers and trailers do plenty of spoiling. So, I'd say go ahead and review - and include SPOILER WARNING in the first line. Charles H. Bryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-53809842333440090852015-06-19T18:22:32.818-07:002015-06-19T18:22:32.818-07:00@RCP
Sure, it's another perspective.
It's...@RCP<br />Sure, it's another perspective. <br />It's Jane's sanitized perspective, unchallenged, 40 plus years later, tailored to exactly how it will look to people who don't know what happened.Easy to rewrite history.<br />A better perspective is to google some articles from 1972-75, where Jane doesn't have the final word. Or watch her speeches from back then. Try the one at Berkeley in early 1973. <br />In fact, even in some of her interviews today, she is hardly contrite. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-23650849252503411982015-06-19T13:18:13.308-07:002015-06-19T13:18:13.308-07:00Not sure I get this argument, but hey, it's no...Not sure I get this argument, but hey, it's not a big deal.<br /><br />I think the biggest problem with binge watching is not being able to enjoy it as a group: <br /><br />"OMG! Are you watching TRANSPARENT? I can't believe what happened to X!"<br />"Argh! I haven't seen that episode yet!"<br /><br />You pretty much have to gather your friends together and have a viewing party.Johnny Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13302545167970532080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-6003180844000627012015-06-18T22:56:25.030-07:002015-06-18T22:56:25.030-07:00Though many (Cap'n Bob and Anonymous, for inst...Though many (Cap'n Bob and Anonymous, for instance) would probably rather drive thumbtacks into their skulls, others might be willing to consider another perspective and can Google "The Truth About My Trip to Hanoi" by Jane Fonda.RCPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251247613686669877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-63348585225978049322015-06-18T09:31:41.981-07:002015-06-18T09:31:41.981-07:00See comment to Bob above.See comment to Bob above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-26507504522115415082015-06-18T09:29:41.715-07:002015-06-18T09:29:41.715-07:00Grow up, Bob. It's 2015, not 1970.Grow up, Bob. It's 2015, not 1970.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-1475462685506004672015-06-18T06:47:56.154-07:002015-06-18T06:47:56.154-07:00To: Lee
Thanks for taking the time to answer. To: Lee<br />Thanks for taking the time to answer. Diane D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-87824355050249901612015-06-18T06:15:14.765-07:002015-06-18T06:15:14.765-07:00The real problem is too many reviews are little mo...The real problem is too many reviews are little more than plot recaps. Talk about how well the story works, the casting, the qualify of the performances. There are a hundred things to discuss in a review that will still help people other than telling what happened.Dana Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01350344882342624735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-40501601962807730052015-06-18T05:30:59.048-07:002015-06-18T05:30:59.048-07:00Anumeha said... “…I believe that streaming shows s...Anumeha said... “…I believe that streaming shows should have their own awards because they are not television and they are not movies…“<br /><br />Of course they’re television! It’s in the very definition of the word: “tele-“ meaning “at or over a long distance” and “vision” meaning “the ability to see.”<br /><br />“Broadcast” and “Streaming” are two words for the same thing: “deliver to an audience.”Dave Oldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215102320199051371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-87623202174106288722015-06-18T01:53:17.691-07:002015-06-18T01:53:17.691-07:00Well said, Anonymous. Well said, Anonymous. Cap'n Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11783977137812876489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-64934873153805200482015-06-17T22:12:39.913-07:002015-06-17T22:12:39.913-07:00I know what a teaser is, but what's a tag?
A ...<i>I know what a teaser is, but what's a tag?</i><br /><br />A tag is a short scene at the end of an episode, separated from the rest of the show by a commercial and preceding the closing credits.Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-71115878628554322142015-06-17T21:59:18.236-07:002015-06-17T21:59:18.236-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-4312165015454199622015-06-17T21:32:27.547-07:002015-06-17T21:32:27.547-07:00To: Anybody
I know what a teaser is, but what'...To: Anybody<br />I know what a teaser is, but what's a tag?Diane D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-14469707303002423692015-06-17T18:54:52.334-07:002015-06-17T18:54:52.334-07:00Yet another possible Friday question from yours tr...Yet another possible Friday question from yours truly:<br /><br />Ken, you've discussed, compared, and contrasted writing for shows that use teasers instead of tags, and shows that use tags instead of teasers -- but what's your opinion on shows that use <i>both</i>, as many 60s sitcoms seemed to use (BEWITCHED, I DREAM OF JEANNIE, HOGAN'S HEROES, etc.)?Joseph Scarbroughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06851086150240380366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-23325862572487698632015-06-17T14:45:47.764-07:002015-06-17T14:45:47.764-07:00"Dump on Trump"! Now that's the mos..."Dump on Trump"! Now that's the most appropriate slogan of the year, so far....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-58561383900564847412015-06-17T14:15:10.901-07:002015-06-17T14:15:10.901-07:00Trump is gold! Can't wait until he gets into t...Trump is gold! Can't wait until he gets into the debates! It's going to be beautiful! Looking forward to Bill Maher this Friday evening. Jon Stewart launched the first great bit. Enjoy!<br /><br />http://thedailyshow.cc.com/full-episodes/8mfir8/june-16--2015---aziz-ansariPete Grossmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-55913471572944208622015-06-17T13:50:07.487-07:002015-06-17T13:50:07.487-07:00@Hamid
Re: Dennis Rodman and Jane Fonda
Dennis Rod...@Hamid<br />Re: Dennis Rodman and Jane Fonda<br />Dennis Rodman is the one who made a stupid mistake. Not the sharpest knife to begin with.<br />But Jane Fonda's was anything but a stupid mistake. It was conscious support of the North Vietnamese Communists, who were using her as a propaganda tool at the expense of our troops, some of whom were imprisoned only a few blocks from where she sat on a gun turret with a Vietnamese helmet. She claims now it was a one time thing but there are plenty of pictures of her laughing with North Vietnamese regulars in the country side. She extolled the virtues of North Vietnam long after that and denied American troops had been tortured, against all evidence to the contrary. <br />Even today her apologies are more about her career than about the actual offense she gave to our troops, not to mention the propaganda value she afforded the enemy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-61679405970481514292015-06-17T13:41:44.342-07:002015-06-17T13:41:44.342-07:00Pat Reeder: I loved TRANSPARENT. I think a point t...Pat Reeder: I loved TRANSPARENT. I think a point that comes out in the series is that one reason he has self-absorbed children is that he himself has been self-absorbed a lot of the time. I think the show lays out very well the distortions to family dynamics that are a logical consequence to one member having such a deep secret.<br /><br />Ken: re reviewing Netflix and other streaming shows, I'd suggest you wait a couple of weeks and then simply do it with a big spoiler notice at the top. Why is it any different than reviewing a movie lots of us haven't seen yet?<br /><br />wgWendy M. Grossmanhttp://www.pelicancrossing.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-30924184199160635922015-06-17T13:36:43.089-07:002015-06-17T13:36:43.089-07:00How to review streaming shows - like a book review...How to review streaming shows - like a book reviewer. Book reviewers have been reviewing books without spoilers for awhile.<br /><br />The shared experience has left the office and joined twitter. There will always be one shot stories such as books and movies. There will always be live TV events from the Super Bowl to the Oscars. There will be always shows such as GAMES OF THRONES where those who read the books first gather at one watercooler and those who watch the TV episodes first gathered at another watercooler.michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17812924049258701715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-9445372135046246052015-06-17T11:58:33.251-07:002015-06-17T11:58:33.251-07:00Ken, I'd still like read reviews in general te...Ken, I'd still like read reviews in general terms because it gives me ideas of shows to watch. Personally, I don't see what's so great about Mad Men. I don't like OITNB season 3 as much as the first two seasons. If you review something here, try not to spoil it.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00760229533287495672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-75398449389222345842015-06-17T10:36:50.441-07:002015-06-17T10:36:50.441-07:00Bob
I respect your right to dislike Jane Fonda bu...Bob<br /><br />I respect your right to dislike Jane Fonda but come on, there are worse people than her out there. She made a stupid mistake but most recently that giant intellect Dennis Rodman hung out with the barbaric North Korean regime which treats its people in horrific ways.-https://www.blogger.com/profile/14094842388871801342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-54505320734603297662015-06-17T10:28:48.483-07:002015-06-17T10:28:48.483-07:00Yeah, I just can't wait to see the Hanoi Jane ...Yeah, I just can't wait to see the Hanoi Jane show. Right.Cap'n Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11783977137812876489noreply@blogger.com