tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post7232818743119459096..comments2008-02-15T07:42:35.246-08:00Comments on By Ken Levine: The big WGAW membership meetingKEN LEVINEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17305293821975250420noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-35784189306935340272008-02-15T07:42:00.000-08:002008-02-15T07:42:00.000-08:002008-02-15T07:42:00.000-08:00What kind of a geek does it make me that I laughed...What kind of a geek does it make me that I laughed loudest at your colleague's Triangle Shirtwaist Factory joke??Karenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01288100796201737845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-90187327186678292582008-02-10T21:55:00.000-08:002008-02-10T21:55:00.000-08:002008-02-10T21:55:00.000-08:00Oh, one more thing: how the fuck did Diablo Cody b...<I>Oh, one more thing: how the fuck did Diablo Cody become the face of the WGA and the toast of Hollywood?</I><BR/><BR/>Silencio! Grease up that stripper pole and get to spinnin'!Dhppynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-63758746560169696632008-02-10T21:33:00.000-08:002008-02-10T21:33:00.000-08:002008-02-10T21:33:00.000-08:00I was wrong in saying George Clayton Johnson still...I was wrong in saying George Clayton Johnson still working, at least in film & TV. He's credited on all the OCEAN'S movies because he wrote the original story for the original OCEAN'S 11, so he gets a "Based on a story by" credit on all of them. But he hasn't a fresh credit in 30 years.D. McEwannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-67933574427910081362008-02-10T18:38:00.000-08:002008-02-10T18:38:00.000-08:002008-02-10T18:38:00.000-08:00Joel Stein from the LA Times was the live-blogging...Joel Stein from the LA Times was the live-blogging clown. Nikki Finke called his humor column "unreadable." Ouch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-61091903550616075172008-02-10T16:43:00.000-08:002008-02-10T16:43:00.000-08:002008-02-10T16:43:00.000-08:00This was the greatest labor action in history. We ...This was the greatest labor action in history. We are far more important than air traffic controllers and we won. Solidarity forever!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-88258563936829926492008-02-10T16:23:00.000-08:002008-02-10T16:23:00.000-08:002008-02-10T16:23:00.000-08:00While this deal may not be a situation of ramming ...While this deal may <I>not</I> be a situation of ramming it down our throats, there certainly is/was a ticking clock alarm set to go off by Wednesday.<BR/><BR/>This isn't exactly the deal (I bailed early from the meeting, so I guess I shouldn't be complaining) I'd hoped for. And talking to other, more prominent writers, many of whom agree that it's not even a <I>good</I> deal--I'm no showrunner, nor do I writer for TV so my opinion matters little...<BR/><BR/>But I do know enough about commerce--internet commerce--that flat fees and 17 day promo windows are money making machines. I know that internet ad rates went up 78% this year and that ad revenue from internet is expected to topple $768 million dollars this coming year. And that was <I>before</I> the streaming of TV shows.<BR/><BR/>The studios got a gift.<BR/><BR/>Also, I know that even though we're voting on Tuesday to suspend the strike or not pending ratification, that it matters not all. Especially considering the leadership already suspended picketing for the next two days. So much for trusting us, eh?<BR/><BR/>I know that the favored nations handshake will never find its way into the language of the contract.<BR/><BR/>And I know that settling for this "deal" was a mistake. We had our chance to make real history, to regain our self respect, and I know that the AMPTP is laughing at us. And they should be--we deserve it.<BR/><BR/>Oh, one more thing: how the fuck did Diablo Cody become the face of the WGA and the toast of Hollywood?Jake Hollywoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04602947558576722328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-42189159082743252272008-02-10T16:13:00.000-08:002008-02-10T16:13:00.000-08:002008-02-10T16:13:00.000-08:00I can't be the only non WGA member who's a little ...I can't be the only non WGA member who's a little bummed that the strike is ending. I liked feeling like a part of the team, carrying a sign and having the occasional chat with some guy from some Disney Family show I never knew existed. Now, I'll just go back to walking in circles in my apartment. Alas.<BR/><BR/>Sorry our paths never crossed, Ken.Dhppynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-71636809003280562212008-02-10T15:45:00.000-08:002008-02-10T15:45:00.000-08:002008-02-10T15:45:00.000-08:00While I'd love to see you guys go back to work ASA...While I'd love to see you guys go back to work ASAP, part of me wouldn't mind seeing the Oscars forced to go to plan B. No actors, no red carpet, no glitz, no bull. Just movies. (Admittedly, probably no ratings, either, but it might set millions of dimwitted, celeb-obsessed Americans straight about focusing on the process and the art instead of the glitter.)<BR/><BR/>Heck, if I were running the show, I'd go back to that second-floor ballroom at the Roosevelt Hotel and just hand out the awards, as they did when this all began in 1927-28.VP81955http://www.blogger.com/profile/11792390726196611188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-66054106772815933682008-02-10T15:39:00.000-08:002008-02-10T15:39:00.000-08:002008-02-10T15:39:00.000-08:00Jimbo, you can't be serious. Although The Daily Sh...Jimbo, you can't be serious. Although The Daily Show has remained a good show, you can not truely believe it's been just as good as it was, since the quality drop is extremely noticable, primarily in the form of the ENDLESS amounts of filler and milking. Gags that would get 30 seconds before, now get whole 7-minute segments. That Stewart-Colbert-O'Brien feud schtick was dragged out far beyond it's limited comic possibilities. PLEASE bring back the Daily Show writing staff right away. (Strike not over until Wednesday? Daily Show won't be back to normal until next week.) And BTW, no "Overpaid WGA guys" write for The Daily Show. It has a basic cable budget. Those writers are underpaid. The people writing CBS's Monday night sit-com line-up are overpaid.<BR/><BR/>Ken, I agree that a writer with only 6 Twilight Zone credits, or even 7, would not carry more weight with me. Only George Clayton Johnson has a mere 7 Twilight Zone writing credits, and I've met George. He's the last living hippie. (He's also, at 78, still active, having written for George Clooney's three OCEAN'S movies .)<BR/><BR/>However, the opinion of anyone with more than 7 Twilight Zone writing credits would, in fact, carry a lot more weight with me. There are only four people on this list: Earl Hamner Jr. (8 episodes), Richard Matheson (16 episodes), Charles Beaumont (22 episodes) and of course, Rod Serling (148 episodes. That's not a joke. 148 episodes!!!) Serling and Beaumont are dead, so their showing up at a WGA meeting would be impressive just in and of itself. The Tony Randall column a week or two back provoked mention of 7 FACES Of DR. LAO. Beaumont wrote it. He was a brilliant writer.<BR/><BR/>I've spent time sitting around, chatting about this and that, with Hamner and with Matheson. Both fascinating men. Hamner also managed to create little nothings called THE WALTONS and FALCON CREST, so his opinions on TV writing and contracts are clearly worthless.<BR/><BR/>As for Richard Matheson: he's nothing less than a legend. (He could say "I am Legend" if he hadn't invented the phrase over 50 years ago.) I have a shelf full of his novels, and a larger shelf full of DVDs of movies he's written. (And, in a closet, a cardboard box full of old VHS copies of those movies.)<BR/><BR/>TWILIGHT ZONE was a cream show, only extremely good writers got to write for it. Which means naturally, that no one has only 6 Twilight Zone credits, as, in order to get those credits, they had to have written a lot of other good stuff, and to have gone on to write a lot more great stuff.<BR/><BR/>So I'm afraid that the opinions of a writer with TWILIGHT ZONE credits would carry a lot of weight with me.<BR/><BR/>I was going to exclude writers from the 1985 TWILIGHT ZONE revival, but glancing down the list, I kept seeing names like Ray Bradbury, Harlan Ellison, and Ted Sturgeon, so I can't exclude it. I am excluding the 2002 revivial. The list there isn't anywhere near as exhalted. (Although 2 episodes are credited to Pen Densham, the former owner of my living room sofa. Yes, at this very moment, one of my kitties is napping on a couch formerly owned by a TWILIGHT ZONE writer.)<BR/><BR/>But if they've only written 6 episodes of YES DEAR, screw 'em!<BR/><BR/>A tentative "Hooray" for the end of the strike.D. McEwannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-13298238909789600282008-02-10T14:22:00.000-08:002008-02-10T14:22:00.000-08:002008-02-10T14:22:00.000-08:00Crossing my fingers...Crossing my fingers...Dwacon®http://www.blogger.com/profile/07544514023626682777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-69992100960910505202008-02-10T11:09:00.000-08:002008-02-10T11:09:00.000-08:002008-02-10T11:09:00.000-08:00A meeting being stopped because someone is live-bl...A meeting being stopped because someone is live-blogging. It truly is the 21st century, isn't it?Tim W.http://www.blogger.com/profile/16860726607106078491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-56894875504419019902008-02-10T09:57:00.000-08:002008-02-10T09:57:00.000-08:002008-02-10T09:57:00.000-08:00If any of the writer/producers don't like the deal...If any of the writer/producers don't like the deal Young negotiated, they could always rename their production outfit the Triangle Shirtwaist Co.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-36255361461878199792008-02-10T08:54:00.000-08:002008-02-10T08:54:00.000-08:002008-02-10T08:54:00.000-08:00I'd say we've learned one thing from this strike: ...I'd say we've learned one thing from this strike: Daily Show needs no WGA writers. I find it to be funnier these days than ever, so whomever is doing the writing, keep them and let those overpriced WGA guys hit the trail.Jimbo Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-13022267853237802462008-02-10T07:46:00.000-08:002008-02-10T07:46:00.000-08:002008-02-10T07:46:00.000-08:00WGAW:Deal...or No Deal?WGAW:<BR/>Deal...or No Deal?branfordbobwww.theradiostation.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-78992995656433189172008-02-10T05:27:00.000-08:002008-02-10T05:27:00.000-08:002008-02-10T05:27:00.000-08:00Good luck and I really hope you'll all get a settl...Good luck and I really hope you'll all get a settlement you can be happy with and will be back at work soon. The world needs you! (And I want to see what happens on 30 Rock.)Gail Renardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09388455755408650770noreply@blogger.com