tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post2412791675403896904..comments2023-11-03T06:02:02.128-07:00Comments on By Ken Levine: Another thing about CHEERS you didn't knowBy Ken Levinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17305293821975250420noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-45904368847703402872012-03-24T20:04:07.177-07:002012-03-24T20:04:07.177-07:00Speaking of Night Court, the show would have looke...Speaking of Night Court, the show would have looked a lot better on film. Most of the screen captures I've made of the DVDs have been putrid looking. There was way too much green and yellow coming from the light sources but I guess those filters were supposed to make up for the grunge look the courtroom was supposed to have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-56683982065277740892012-03-22T12:44:21.645-07:002012-03-22T12:44:21.645-07:00A lot of those Norman Lear produced shows look so ...A lot of those Norman Lear produced shows look so dated today. Especially the actbreaks with the dramatic closeups. And many of the series did use the filmed/stock footage for a videotaped show. Good Times had the Chicago stuff, then a videotaped shot of that painting at end.<br /><br />I think there was a Chico and the Man (post-Prinze) that was filmed. Family Ties and Facts of Life both had TV movies (or 2-parters) that were filmed.<br /><br />Someone mentioned the John Larroquette Show. That looked like a film/tape hybrid of some sort, very different.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-55768501509346410422012-03-20T09:41:26.866-07:002012-03-20T09:41:26.866-07:00I cannot stand tape footage. It instantly reminds ...I cannot stand tape footage. It instantly reminds me of cheesy soap operas, and it screams 1980's.<br /><br />To me, it's either film or nothing (or at least digital video that replicates the look of film).Eduardo Jencarellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14393598179614372710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-19376898811237572802012-03-19T13:53:42.009-07:002012-03-19T13:53:42.009-07:00Newhart (the '80s series) was video for the fi...Newhart (the '80s series) was video for the first season and film for the rest, and it was an improvement. Everything looked better.Stephen Robbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18113123949398949049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-42361188760584369522012-03-19T12:59:21.910-07:002012-03-19T12:59:21.910-07:00at least they didn't switch to filming in fron...at least they didn't switch to filming in front of a dead studio audience.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-38705343466999760852012-03-19T10:15:45.677-07:002012-03-19T10:15:45.677-07:00As far as I can tell, the reason Britney Spears lo...As far as I can tell, the reason Britney Spears looks less than desirable in that photo is because she's crying and has her hair up in messy 'do. I don't see any wrinkles, blemishes, blotches or other damage that's screaming for makeup. Maybe the resolution on my computer needs boosting?jbryantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-39573634956407423792012-03-19T09:29:55.305-07:002012-03-19T09:29:55.305-07:00Northern Exposure also lost the original music whe...Northern Exposure also lost the original music when it came out on dvd. A big loss, since a lot of those songs commented directly on the episode.chuckcdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-2189673669610995462012-03-19T09:24:05.159-07:002012-03-19T09:24:05.159-07:00Better than a "dead studio audience"Better than a "dead studio audience"chuckcdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-24107180130044276542012-03-19T06:10:33.391-07:002012-03-19T06:10:33.391-07:00From above...
"I believe Danny Arnold WANTED...From above...<br /><br />"I believe Danny Arnold WANTED to do BM on film"<br /><br />Reader comment line of the year!Bob Gasselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04748728107349857332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-20572371175123339202012-03-19T05:52:36.133-07:002012-03-19T05:52:36.133-07:00Speaking of the shoddy way "WKRP in Cincinnat...Speaking of the shoddy way "WKRP in Cincinnati" was treated (reason #10,943 to hate the music industry, and yes, I can list the other 10,942 if you like), it's finally about to start being rerun starting April 8 on the Antenna TV nostalgia channel. <br /><br />I'm very anxious to see if they'll be able to air the original shows because it's on a broadcast medium, or if they have to use the ones that have been bowdlerized for DVD, thanks to the greed of the music licensers. If they're actually the original episodes with the original music, I'll be firing up the recorder.Pat Reederhttp://www.comedy-wire.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-89692462311970691502012-03-18T21:42:53.494-07:002012-03-18T21:42:53.494-07:00I've watched a lot of those Brit coms and noti...I've watched a lot of those Brit coms and noticed the striking difference between the use of tape indoors and film outdoors. And low and behold, on a DVD extra for one show it was explained that the reason it was done that way for almost all shows of that period is because at that point in time that compared to film equipment the videotape equipment was so big and bulky and hard to transport outdoors that it made it cost prohibitive.YEKIMIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01921751875397071034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-62928695241936961862012-03-18T20:37:17.151-07:002012-03-18T20:37:17.151-07:00Another great thing about film is that it offers m...Another great thing about film is that it offers much higher resolution than the old standard-definition tv specs. An ancient show like I Love Lucy will live on in high-definition looking significantly better than All In The Family or anything else from the tape era.<br /><br />Film has all tape and digital formats beat as a preservation format as well.ROB in Torontonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-15187813647247454662012-03-18T20:09:36.816-07:002012-03-18T20:09:36.816-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Max Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706524941272103444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-80612592447236258392012-03-18T19:02:07.028-07:002012-03-18T19:02:07.028-07:00I know what you mean, Dy. it seems like much of th...I know what you mean, Dy. it seems like much of the output from ABC's Prospect studio was washed out and/or fuzzy (Soap, Barney Miller, etc.) even when it was new.Howard Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05377628524697677407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-53412633048240356242012-03-18T18:50:54.022-07:002012-03-18T18:50:54.022-07:00Bosom Buddies' pilot was shot on film then wen...Bosom Buddies' pilot was shot on film then went to VTR for the rest of the run. I'm sure there were others.Howard Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05377628524697677407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-29915262566790127152012-03-18T17:09:15.579-07:002012-03-18T17:09:15.579-07:00was most of the late '60s, 1970s, and early &#...was most of the late '60s, 1970s, and early '80s recorded on tape instead of film? I've always wondered why most video (not movies though and not some TV shows) from that era looks like crap.DyHrdMEThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621011643939597497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-44576599407064387092012-03-18T14:24:16.505-07:002012-03-18T14:24:16.505-07:00Swarley, the blog has a new post every day. And mo...Swarley, the blog has a new post every day. And most readers haven't read the archive, and those that have can't remember a post four years ago. <br /><br />I know you were trying to be smart and funny, but it seemed a bit rude (to me, at least).<br /><br />It's not like you've stumbled on a secret.Johnny Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13302545167970532080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-50193088830868553432012-03-18T14:12:00.696-07:002012-03-18T14:12:00.696-07:00I started following the blog relatively recently. ...I started following the blog relatively recently. Are reruns normal? This is the same post as http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2008/09/another-thing-about-cheers-you-didnt.html<br /><br />You'd think a writer would at least put together a clip show instead of a complete rerun. :)Swarleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-69446296012350939962012-03-18T13:52:37.959-07:002012-03-18T13:52:37.959-07:00Tape as it was in the 1970s though the 90s had a t...Tape as it was in the 1970s though the 90s had a tendency to make the actors and actresses appear more live, and their surroundings appear more fake -- it was closer in feeling to that of showing a live performance, where you know everything's a prop and it takes you out of the believability of reality, even if (as noted above) a taped show from 40 years ago can still come across as 'plausibly live', as long as you're not watching it on an HDTV channel.<br /><br />You could believe there was a back room, or a Melville's, or a stairs up to the street on the filmed version of "Cheers" because there is (was) more subtlety possible on film than there was on videotape. "Cheers" on tape, circa 1983, would have given the set the same air of believability as your average set on any current Disney Channel 'tweener' show.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-54995530412341768752012-03-18T13:43:33.655-07:002012-03-18T13:43:33.655-07:00You know - you could have just suggested imagining...You know - you could have just suggested imagining Britney Spears without makeup and left it at that...I wasn't prepared.<br /><br />pumpkinhead said...<br /><br />...Growing Pains maybe...? (yeah, I watched Growing Pains... what of it?)<br /><br />Well.....................never mind.RCPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251247613686669877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-17344377320103723592012-03-18T12:14:48.939-07:002012-03-18T12:14:48.939-07:00My memory on this is fuzzy... I remember another 8...My memory on this is fuzzy... I remember another 80s or 90s sitcom switched from tape to film (or vice versa) for one episode that actually aired and the difference was jarring. Growing Pains maybe...? (yeah, I watched Growing Pains... what of it?)pumpkinheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-45960703927777500212012-03-18T12:14:37.919-07:002012-03-18T12:14:37.919-07:00I'm guessing the studio cameras were too big t...I'm guessing the studio cameras were too big to take outside, or the filmed footage was stock. The other option would be to film the whole thing, but I guess the concern would then be that the characters wouldn't look the same as on the show.<br /><br />Or maybe they just thought nobody would notice!Johnny Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13302545167970532080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-26554051683219172312012-03-18T12:09:29.960-07:002012-03-18T12:09:29.960-07:00Film is generally better, more richer, than tape, ...Film is generally better, more richer, than tape, and if I were a producer and had a choice, I'd definately choose the former. However, tape does have something--I'm not sure I'd call it a virtue--film doesn't. More of a sense of immediacy. Compare the filmed MARY TYLER MOORE to the taped ALL IN THE FAMILY. When I watch MTM nowadays, I'm somewhat more aware I'm watching a 40-year old show than I am with AITF. Topical references notwithstanding, ALL IN THE FAMILY looks like it was taped yesterday. <br /><br />One thing about ALL IN THE FAMILY, though, that I've always found a bit odd is the opening credits. You start with a taped Archie and Edith in their living room playing a piano and singing, then it segues to a filmed overview of Manhattan, then to a filmed overview of Queens, then the street the Bunkers live on, closes in on the Bunker house, before switching back to the videotaped living room again as Archie and Edith finish their song. I've often wondered why they just didn't either film or tape the whole opening sequence, instead of breaking it up like that. If money was the issue, wouldn't it have been cheaper to tape the exteriors?Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155991693956178030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-54145774683508879252012-03-18T11:51:59.027-07:002012-03-18T11:51:59.027-07:00I remember when "Newhart" went from VT t...I remember when "Newhart" went from VT to film; it made me such a big difference--maybe because they got rid of the first Vandekellen girl and replaced her with Stephanie...who knows?Kleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14306497851609490015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-90077583296620120772012-03-18T11:05:19.081-07:002012-03-18T11:05:19.081-07:00I was always amazed at the number of people I knew...I was always amazed at the number of people I knew who couldn't tell the difference between tape and film back then. Today with digital, the difference is almost imperceptible.<br /><br />Also legendary is how MTM went to tape for WKRP to help defray the cost of licensing the music. Today, the DVDs have both low-res tape AND all the "real" music was removed. Classic lose-lose on a show that definitely deserved better treatment.Howard Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05377628524697677407noreply@blogger.com