tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post5458860395423032598..comments2023-11-03T06:02:02.128-07:00Comments on By Ken Levine: Notes on giving notesBy Ken Levinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17305293821975250420noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-48040274263826425792011-12-11T01:07:07.660-08:002011-12-11T01:07:07.660-08:00I'll bet that execs wouldn't be giving a l...I'll bet that execs wouldn't be giving a lot of suggestions to someone they felt was taking their kinds of concerns into account. In fact I'll bet that they wouldn't mind getting a lot of suggestions from such a someone.imsmarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07900858875327497744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-38374839864140262142011-12-09T19:13:59.502-08:002011-12-09T19:13:59.502-08:00Wendy,
Go to Roy's in Hawaii.
Ken Levine
Vi...Wendy,<br /><br />Go to Roy's in Hawaii.<br /><br />Ken Levine <br />Via iPadKen levinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-43631456313575709832011-12-09T11:10:05.090-08:002011-12-09T11:10:05.090-08:00Here's a Friday question, raised by last night...Here's a Friday question, raised by last night's Big Bang Theory. Here is a show I have loved since day one, but last night's episode lost the magic because all I kept thinking throughout was, "This could be an episode of Two and a Half Men". In fact, it may even have *been* an episode of Two and a Half Men. Same stable, after all. Similarly, it was noticeable that during the years that Buffy and Angel overlapped the same themes would pop up on both shows, always done differently, but also always recognizable. So, my question: when you're running two shows at once how hard does it become to keep them separate? And what are good strategies for doing so?<br /><br />wg<br />PS: Could still use a restaurant recommendation for Honolulu.Wendy M. Grossmanhttp://www.pelicancrossing.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-23733935215766177812011-12-09T07:54:31.425-08:002011-12-09T07:54:31.425-08:00Those notes you reference are bad, but one has to ...Those notes you reference are bad, but one has to wonder why no notes were sent on this British sitcom (from the "Now I Know" website):<br /><br />http://dlewis.net/nik-archives/hitler-one-night-only/cjdahl60https://www.blogger.com/profile/18410008032151744992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-68273292465282855242011-12-09T06:58:40.185-08:002011-12-09T06:58:40.185-08:00The vague "I'll know what obscenity is wh...The vague "I'll know what obscenity is when I see it" ruling led to many years in which the Supreme Court Justices "had to" watch movies at the courthouse in order to rule on whether they were obscene. For real.<br /><br />I write humorous novels. My former editor's notes often consisted of "Make it funnier." Gee, thanks for that very helpful guidance.Debby Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-60336235753832922472011-12-08T23:02:14.251-08:002011-12-08T23:02:14.251-08:00I remember a line from one of my favorite films
&q...I remember a line from one of my favorite films<br />"Stranger than fiction" when Will Ferrell's character, "Harold Crick" is talking to Dustin Hoffman.<br />Hoffman says "So live your life, eat pancakes" and Harold protests because he feels that Hoffman doesn't understand. Then Hoffman says that its the quality of the life depends on the quality of the pancakes. In other words enjoy your life to its fullest while you have it. I love the metaphor. like Carpe diem! If there is one thing I have learned, as screenwriter or story teller. only let like minded people read your work(in other words other writers or artists who know you.) I shared a story with a one time friend who was not such a person and he didn't get it-at all. But also ask for specific feedback. and be open to their response- it might be good or even fix a problem.c. swanbergnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-1463089939560303532011-12-08T13:46:29.149-08:002011-12-08T13:46:29.149-08:00Here's the question mark I omitted from my com...Here's the question mark I omitted from my comment: ?Cap'n Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11783977137812876489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-38876556975333957002011-12-08T13:45:41.778-08:002011-12-08T13:45:41.778-08:00I was in a community theater play. During rehearsa...I was in a community theater play. During rehearsal the director said this to me: "You did something good in Act 2. Keep doing it." Need I say that as a director he sucked.Cap'n Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11783977137812876489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-49367357884953038972011-12-08T12:53:33.933-08:002011-12-08T12:53:33.933-08:00I was in the middle of writing a comment with some...I was in the middle of writing a comment with some non-specific ideas about notes that I receive from my eccentric boss. But then serendipitously he called me into his office and I got one of the doozies of all time. <br /><br />The scene in question is a negotiation between an American celebutante on the lam in Vietnam and a marriage mediator who has been bribed by the groom's family to keep him from marrying a poor local village girl. The celebutante offers to make for the marriage mediator some Vera Wang wedding gowns explaining that he'll make more money selling the Vera Wang knockoffs than he got from the parents' bribe. So.<br /><br />Rather than explain what he thought was wrong with the scene as written I got this anecdote: When my boss was a young man, he was a surgeon in Egypt. He wanted to open a clinic in a small Bedouin town near Cairo, but everyone who had tried to open one had been run out of town by Hassan, the local barber, because Hassan also gave injections and saw a clinic as competition. So my boss' solution was to explain to Hassan that if he offered to give the men injections of calcium, it would make their balls hot (verbatim quote - I have no idea whether it's true, or why this is desirable). My boss could get the calcium injections for five pence and Hassan could sell them for fifteen. And in this way, my boss was able to open the clinic.<br /><br />So that's the note. About how to change the Vietnamese marriage mediator scene. <br /><br />Okay, back to work.RS Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15544253489863639345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-91838608680063732452011-12-08T12:00:08.288-08:002011-12-08T12:00:08.288-08:00I'm not sure sure where else to ask this, or i...I'm not sure sure where else to ask this, or if it's been asked before, but do you appear in any of these Behind the Scenes M*A*S*H clips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krfzNVE0xSo; and do you have anything to add or critique about how the process is described?Liz M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-69407384435928259602011-12-08T11:36:06.073-08:002011-12-08T11:36:06.073-08:00Was it Ken who posted a link to a spoof recording ...Was it Ken who posted a link to a spoof recording session for a radio ad a couple of years back? It was a pirate style voiceover where Oo Aar mne hearties slowly got whittled down to Arr Hearties to leave more time to get the name of the shop in. Complete with lots of meaningless direction for the poor actor trying to do his job.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-46322354031302054732011-12-08T09:31:55.965-08:002011-12-08T09:31:55.965-08:00"I’m not a mind reader, and even if I were, w..."I’m not a mind reader, and even if I were, what good would it do me if you don’t have a thought in your head?"<br /><br />Love that line. <br /><br />Working in publishing, I'll receive "helpful" writing tips, such as one (not an exact quote but close enough) from a client seeking to sell a luxury property:<br /><br />"Sip wine on your private balcony while being serenaded by a symphony of a thousand crickets." <br /><br />Sometimes, being vague is preferable.RCPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251247613686669877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-78584346928030652542011-12-08T08:49:34.524-08:002011-12-08T08:49:34.524-08:00I've directed and acted (local theater) and my...I've directed and acted (local theater) and my favorite note as an actor was from the writer of a sketch. This was radio theater and I and another fellow were grown men playing seven year-old boys.<br /><br />So, we wore beanies with propellers; it got a big laugh.<br /><br />The writer said, with a laugh:<br /><br />"Rot in Hell, both of ya!"Brian Phillipshttp://ultrasonicremote.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-70610341396840144402011-12-08T08:43:33.749-08:002011-12-08T08:43:33.749-08:00I've had "I feel it's talking to me, ...I've had "I feel it's talking to me, now make it sing..."<br />I still don't get that one, as I wasn't writing a musical. <br /><br />I've also had, after no days off for two months and working round the clock; "Disappointing." That was the entire response. <br />I emailed back, thanking him for the in-depth critique on story, dialogue, character development etc and the many constructive suggestions and guidelines. Then I got fired.<br /><br />For the sake of balance, I've also had "It doesn't work, but I'll never say it doesn't work without telling you why, or without suggesting how it could be made to work." <br /><br />So they're not all bad.Macnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-34043156261565114652011-12-08T08:03:02.304-08:002011-12-08T08:03:02.304-08:00Here's a sketch poking fun at bad notes:
Mitch...Here's a sketch poking fun at bad notes:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sifESist1KY" rel="nofollow">Mitchell_Webb</a>Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17970641911241417692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-2212985334768594382011-12-08T07:41:59.246-08:002011-12-08T07:41:59.246-08:00As a Graphic Designer, I've had to find ways o...As a Graphic Designer, I've had to find ways of trying to get decent responses from my clients. One type of note I get, which isn't mentioned here, is the, "Why don't we try it in red?" note. Which is to say, rather than put into words what they don't like about something, they try to solve it themselves... without ever thinking two important things:<br /><br />1. "Hey, I'm paying this guy to make something look good, why don't I just tell him what I don't like, and HE can figure it out?"<br />2. "Maybe he's already tried it in five different shades of red, and it didn't work."<br /><br />I think because Graphic Designer is such a visual medium, everyone feels they have a valid opinion and useful input.<br /><br />But forgetting all that for a moment: THAT'S MY LEG! (And Ken's very cool Dad.)Johnny Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07157630082355224244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-44318380608354894362011-12-08T07:28:47.431-08:002011-12-08T07:28:47.431-08:00Well, you've got to admit the unnamed executiv...Well, you've got to admit the unnamed executive's note would have worked for that episode with Lucy and Ethel in the candy factory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-61074527124880205072011-12-08T07:25:18.224-08:002011-12-08T07:25:18.224-08:00As a television editor I'm inundated with vagu...As a television editor I'm inundated with vague notes all the time. My favorites are "Make it a something", "Make it Prime-Timey" and my all time favorite... "make it bigger" which I've determined means louder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-47334249275472328582011-12-08T07:05:48.021-08:002011-12-08T07:05:48.021-08:00But if I feel there isn't enough hopping???? :...But if I feel there isn't enough hopping???? :)<br /><br />Like Rory, I too have had feedback (in a different industry) that was less than helpful. One of our former chief executives was notorious:<br /><br />1. Not quite there;<br />2. Not what I expected;<br />3. Do over;<br />4. Yes, but no;<br />5. Crispy.<br /><br />Option 1-4 meant do it again, but with no guidance what was wrong with the first version -- bearing in mind that these docs had been vetted by three layers of management as ready to go to a Minister. <br /><br />We never discovered what 5 meant.<br /><br />PolyPolyWogghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239033481272527855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-86807951206430378632011-12-08T06:52:00.423-08:002011-12-08T06:52:00.423-08:00“I feel there’s too much hopping.”
Still chuckli...“I feel there’s too much hopping.” <br /><br />Still chuckling and probably will be all day.Dancer in a Former Life Anhttp://chambersandmalone.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19336675.post-36681141690803517252011-12-08T06:04:30.963-08:002011-12-08T06:04:30.963-08:00Although I'm not in show business, I've re...Although I'm not in show business, I've received some similar feedback from those "above me" when presenting material I've worked on.<br /><br />My favorite is when an executive was invited to give feedback during the early stages of development, declined to do so, and, then when presented with the final product opined, "Well, I wouldn't have done it that way."<br /><br />Very helpful and motivating. (Note that there was no follow-up by the executive along the lines of, "Here's how I think it should be.")Rory W.noreply@blogger.com