Tuesday, July 21, 2020

Funny ladies

Here’s a FQ from Kendall Rivers that became an entire post.

I have quite a list of favorite comic actresses who also happen to be gorgeous proving that there are quite a bit of funny women who are beautiful though it's not always easy to find them from what I read or heard from various showrunners of sitcoms. Who are some of your favorite comic actresses tv or film?

I don’t know why they have to be beautiful.  And to me, when a woman actress is funny she is beautiful. 

So I’m going to just list a bunch, knowing full well I’m inadvertently leaving some out.  So don’t hate me if I overlooked your favorite.  However, there are also names left out on purpose… like Mindy Kaling (who I don’t find funny for a second). 

But among the ones I do find funny (in no particular order) …

Lucille Ball
Shelley Long
Audrey Meadows
Barbara Stanwyck
Carole Lombard
Kate Hepburn
Wanda Sykes
Eden Sher
Elizabeth Banks (when she’s not hosting game shows)
Rosalind Russell
Eve Arden
Carol Burnett
Betty White
Bea Arthur
Georgia Engels
Rita Moreno
Mary Tyler Moore
Suzanne Pleshette
Marion Lorne
Laurie Metcalf
Marla Gibbs
Alison Janey
Doris Roberts
Diane Keaton
Tracey Ullman
Bette Midler
Madeline Kahn
Lizzy Caplin
Whoopi Goldberg
Patricia Heaton
Zara Cully
Peri Gilpin
Judy Holliday
Jane Lynch
Gracie Allen
Elizabeth Montgomery
Leah Remini
Nancy Travis
Lisa Edelstein
Jane Kaczmerek
Leslie Jones
Melissa McCarthy
Kate McKinnon
Tina Fey
Sheryl Lee Ralph
Gilda Radner
Catherine O’Hara
Andrea Martin
Kim Fields
Jean Stapleton
Charlotte Rae
Rhea Perlman
Lisa Kudrow
Julie Kavner
Valerie Harper
Cloris Leachman
Amy Poehler
Wendie Malick
Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Margaret Dumont
Kristen Bell
Constance Wu (although not a fan)
Ellie Kemper
Sarah Silverman
Jane Krakowski
Parker Posey
America Ferrera
Julie Bowen
Esther Rolle
Imogene Coca
Lily Tomlin
Isabel Sanford
Laura Linney
Frances McDormand
Joan Cusack
Jan Hooks
Cecily Strong
Rachel Dratch
And the ones I overlooked

74 comments :

  1. Troy McClure7/21/2020 6:09 AM

    Sorry to be a courtroom lawyer but I was recently browsing old blog posts and I read your review of The Mindy Project in which you say you liked her previous writing and acting. What changed?

    http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-mindy-project-review.html

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  2. Kevin FitzMaurice7/21/2020 7:27 AM

    You (correctly) mentioned Allison Janney, but I'll include Anna Faris, Jaime Pressly, Sadie Calvano and, really, every female cast member of "Mom"--an outstanding ensemble. Also, Candice Bergen ("Murphy Brown"), Rose Marie (Van Dyke show), Alice Pearce ("Bewitched").

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  3. You posted Isabel Sanford twice. (But she deserves it.)

    I never liked Jennifer Anniston in anything after Friends, but she is awesome as Rachel.

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  4. Grace Allen
    Jean Arthur
    Awkafina
    Fanny Brice
    Judy Canova
    Diana Serra Cary
    Nancy Cartwright
    Carol Channing
    Imogene Coca
    Bebe Daniels
    Joan Davis
    Elinor Donahue
    Marie Dressler
    Mrs Drew
    Irene Dunne
    Alice Faye
    Gracie Fields
    June Foray
    Judy Garland
    Marla Gibbs
    Charlotte Greenwood
    Jean Harlow
    Gale Henry
    Mary Holland
    Judy Holliday
    Darla Hood
    Alice Howell
    Mary Ann Jackson
    Marian Jordan
    Julie Kavner
    Kay Kendall
    Angela Lansbury
    Lauren Lapkus
    Florence Lake
    Dorothy Lee
    Natasha Leggero
    Beatrice Lillie
    Riki Lindhome
    Mary Livingstone
    Rose Marie
    Elaine May
    Anne Meara
    Ethel Merman
    Kate Micucci
    Bette Midler
    Colleen Moore
    Polly Moran
    Tawny Newsome
    Mabel Normand
    Ego Nwodim
    Tig Nitaro
    Claudia O'Doherty
    Edna May Oliver
    LaWanda Page
    Lennon Parham
    Barbara Pepper
    Bernadette Peters
    Mary Pickford
    Zasu Pitts
    Mae Questel
    Gilda Radner
    Margaret Rutherford
    Andrea Savage
    Betsy Sodaro
    Penny Singleton
    Yeardley Smith
    Ann Sothern
    Jessica St Clair
    Barbra Streisand
    Lily Sullivan
    Constance Talmadge
    Shirley Temple
    Thelma Todd
    Lily Tomlin
    Vivian Vance
    Marsha Warfield
    Mae West
    Jane Withers

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  5. Haha, maybe you should have just posted the ones you DON'T find funny. That's a long list.

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  6. Will no one say a word for Mary Wickes?

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  7. I would underline Diane Keaton and Parker Posey as very underrated. Both of them gave me bellylaughs and their humor is driven by their acting talent.

    But Lucille Ball is still THE standard for female comedians in my book. Her work still holds up (and more) many decades later.


    Sean

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  8. The name which stuck out the most was Margaret Dumont. Groucho Marx claimed that Dumont didn’t understand most of what he said to her in their movies. She doesn’t have a lot credits beyond the Marx Brothers movies. She was either the perfect comic foil or she was playing a typical society matron, a part which could have been played by another studio contract actress in the 1930’s. I’m just not sure.

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  9. So pleased to see Eden Sher on your list. Her work on The Middle was always stellar and always ignored during awards season. She's a gifted comic actress.

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  10. How about Thelma Todd, on her own or with Patsy Kelly or Zasu Pitts? Also Carole Lombard, Ginger Rogers and Betty Hutton. And the great early ladies of stand-up, like Jean Carroll, Phyllis Diller, Totie Fields and Moms Mabley.

    Minor typo: It's Georgia Engel, not Engels. She showed up one day in my first wife's ballet class in Dallas. Very nice, sweet lady. Georgia, I mean.

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  11. Hattie McDaniel famously said she would rather play a maid than be one, those being the career choices available. But given the chance, she could subvert the standard Hollywood domestic and be hilarious (see ALICE ADAMS, for example). Did you know she was also a singer?

    No one would call Thelma Ritter beautiful but her sharp comedy brightened films from ALL ABOUT EVE to REAR WINDOW. Same for Kathleen Freeman -- the diction coach in SINGIN' IN THE RAIN, the world's most terrifying nun in THE BLUES BROTHERS.

    Beautiful and funny: Ginger Rogers. Backwards in high heels.

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  12. Alan Christensen7/21/2020 9:13 AM

    I'll second Mary Wickes. I'm always delighted when she turns up in an old show or movie. Ditto Kathleen Freeman.

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  13. Thelma Ritter was also great on Night Court

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  14. Wendie Malick and Jane Leeves, too!

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  15. How about Ellen Muth from DEAD LIKE ME?

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  16. Just because Milton Berle and Terry Jones were men doesn't mean they were not funny women too.

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  17. I was expecting to see Jenna Elfman as you've mentioned her so many times here. But that is such a great list.

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  18. And of course
    Jane Ace
    Elvia Allman
    Bea Benadaret
    Sara Berner
    Mary Boland
    Clara Bow
    Alice Brady
    Billie Burke
    Mae Busch
    Marion Davies
    Selma Diamond
    Jan Duggan
    Sally Field
    Bonnie Franklin
    Louise Fazenda
    Anita Garvin
    Alice Ghostley
    Jody Gilbert
    Paulette Goddard
    Audrey Hepburn
    Portland Hoffa
    Kathleen Howard
    Patsy Kelly
    Winnie Lightner
    Babe London
    Marjorie Main
    Minerva Pious
    Edna Purviance
    Jobyna Ralston
    Martha Raye
    Donna Reed (sort of)
    Lyda Roberti
    May Robson
    Ginger Rogers
    Irene Ryan
    Sybil Seely
    Alison Skipworth
    Margaret Sullavan
    Fay Tincher
    Wanda Wiley

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  19. I'm all for recognizing talent and spotlighting funny women; but it bothers me that we are quick to point out women we don't find funny(in your case Mindy Kaling and Maya Rudolph)

    I'm not calling anyone sexist here, but how often do people so this with men? I can only remember people dissing Dane Cook in the 90's

    Not even my style, but couldn't we only focus only on the ones we like?

    Just throwin' it out there, but I never found Robin Williams very funny. Maybe like your Kaling and Rudolph, I say it because I want to know if others feel the same, or is it me?

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  20. Great list!

    And someone above commented on Margaret Dumont. OF COURSE she understood the insults and comments thrown at her by Groucho or W.C. Fields. But part of her enormous acting talent was that she could convince you that not only did the character not know she was being insulted, but that it was SO natural-seeming that it must be that the actress didn't know either. THAT'S talent.

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  21. Maybe you left her off because she's really only played one role (and literally played it for half of her life), but I've always found Kaley Cuoco on BIG BANG to be very funny. I think Elizabeth Montgomery gets in because your animal lust trumps comedic judgement
    -30-

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  22. Troy McClure7/21/2020 11:12 AM

    Not a single mention for Kathryn Hahn?? She's glorious!

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  23. I remember an interview with Tina Fey back when Mad Men was a new show and she was going to have Jon Hamm as a guest on 30 Rock or SNL. She said she was immediately asked (maybe by Amy Poehler, "But is he funny?" because the stigma is the same for attractive people no matter what the gender.

    Many a sitcom just didn't work because the male lead was no match for the female. Lucy herself never found anyone as good as Desi to play off of. Desi was good looking and so was Kevin Kilner was perfect on Almost Perfect and the show suffered without him. (now that we know about Les Moonves, one has to wonder if he fired him for personal reasons).

    But for every Hamm, Arnaz and Kilner, there is a McGinley, God bless him.

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  24. Paget Brewster
    Kristin Wiig
    Casey Wilson

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  25. Anonymous, watch the early seasons of Bewitched. Elizabeth Montgomery is a delightful light comedy actress. She's also charmingly funny in game show appearances, like on "Password" -- she comes across as a genuinely modest, friendly knockout who can be sneaky-funny and is smarter than she thinks she is. If she'd been born about 25 years earlier, she would have been Jean Arthur.

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  26. OMG, you forgot Rosanne Barr. Someone might think you don’t like her!

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  27. Why limit your list to "real" people? Betty Rubble and Jane Jetson are hot and funny. Donna Tubbs-Brown is O.K. However, I've never thought that Marge Simpson, Peggy Hill or Lois Griffin were particularly attractive.

    M.B.

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  28. On the flip side: Are there highly talented women -- or men, for that matter -- who are lousy at comedy? Or is it mainly a matter of casting, as when a actor who radiates gravitas plays a goofball?

    Certainly there are "serious" actors who can play both drama or comedy, but are there some who simply don't have comedy chops in an otherwise extensive skill set?

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  29. On the flip side: Are there highly talented women -- or men, for that matter -- who are lousy at comedy? Or is it mainly a matter of casting, as when an actor who radiates gravitas plays a goofball or a very naturalistic actor attempts a highly stylized farce?

    Certainly there are "serious" actors who can play both drama or comedy, but are there some who simply don't have comedy chops in an otherwise extensive skill set?

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    1. Troy McClure7/21/2020 2:44 PM

      DBenson

      Kristen Stewart is a very good dramatic actress but has zero comedic ability. This became apparent while watching the recent godawful Charlie's Angels reboot in which writer/director Elizabeth Banks made the bizarre decision to cast Stewart as the comic relief, giving her most of the jokes. Every "kooky" moment and every one liner landed with a thud. It was excruciating to watch.

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  30. All of the women on Late Night with Seth Meyers:
    Amber Ruffin
    Ally Hord
    Karen Chee
    Jenny Hagel

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  31. No mention yet of Barbara Feldon?

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  32. The dig at Mindy Kaling seemed gratuitous to me. However, I've mostly seen her play the sober assistant to someone who was supposed to be funny, e.g., Kirstie Alley in Drop Dead Gorgeous.

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  33. Of those listed, how many would have been able to make it as stand-up comics? It's one thing to be funny in a scripted show [where you could have as many takes as needed to get it right] vs. going onto a stage on your own and performing jokes.

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  34. Edie McClurg
    Polly Holliday
    Jane Dulo
    Marsha Warfield
    Ann B. Davis
    Audra Lindley
    Annie Potts
    Toks Olagundoye (best part of THE NEIGHBORS)
    Katherine Helmond
    Wendi McLendon-Covey
    Kaye Ballard
    Vicki Lawrence
    Beverly Archer
    Loni Anderson
    Katey Sagal

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  35. "sanford said...
    Thelma Ritter was also great on Night Court"


    Huh? Night Court debuted in 1984. Thelma Ritter died in 1969. Even if they dug her up for the show, 15 years in her grave would not have left her very "funny."

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  36. Thank you, Anonymous. I'm another person who never found Robin Williams funny other than his first appearance as Mork. Too hyper.

    Another talent overlooked is Christine McIntyre, who played in numerous short subjects with The Three Stooges.

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  37. Cristela Alonzo
    Cameron Diaz
    Téa Leoni
    Diana Lynn
    Carmen Miranda
    Daphne Pollard
    Raquel Torres
    Lupe Velez
    Janet Waldo
    Virginia Weidler

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  38. Julie Andrews
    Symona Boniface
    Eleanor Bron
    Dawn French
    Hermione Gingold
    Gertrude Lawrence
    Sarah Jessica Parker
    Diana Rigg
    Jennifer Saunders

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  39. Thanks for saying Amber Ruffin. She is delightful and I think we will be seeing her more than just on Late Night w Seth

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  40. A few of these were standup comics but I think women have always had trouble getting stage time so that field is under-represented. Many of the more recent names came up in the improv scene thru Second City, Groundlings, or UCB.

    Great list.....I really learned to appreciate Julie Bowen (and Modern Family) recently. Her non-verbal skills (mostly reaction shots and face expressions) are always spot-on. I thought that show was annoying, self centered jerks until I saw the incredible combination of talent with her and Ty Burrell. In my mind they are really married.

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  41. Friday question: how and why do writers like Dave Hackel fade out? So many of them just fall off the radar at some point, never to come back, except for an obituary 40 years later. Actually, seems like the most common fate unless you're Larry David or David Simon.

    Is it the business? Other things? You might've answered this throughout the years but are you guys ever coming back to imdb or is it done?

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  42. Todd Everett7/21/2020 4:22 PM


    Anonymous Anonymous said...
    Thanks for saying Amber Ruffin. She is delightful and I think we will be seeing her more than just on Late Night w Seth



    We will have the opportunity. She’s getting a late-night show on Peacock.

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  43. I don't know if anyone mentioned her.
    Completely underrated and wickedly funny on Green Acres.
    Eva Gabor

    Check her out.

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  44. Often on Broadway.....

    Helen Broderick
    Jean Dixon
    Lynne Fontanne
    Luella Gear
    Josephine Hull
    Lee Patrick
    Martha Sleeper- Hal Roach Silent Comedies; Broadway; Duffy’s Tavern (in Puerto Rico); Then jewelry Designer
    Dorothy Stickney

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  45. Lucille Benson
    Stockard Channing
    Dorothy Gish
    Jean Hagen
    Myrna Loy
    Giulietta Masina
    Paula Prentiss
    Wendie Jo Sperber
    Gale Storm
    Holland Taylor

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  46. Jeannie Berlin
    Carrie Fisher
    Meg Ryan (who did more films with Tom Hanks than you’d’ve thought)

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  47. If there were a Mt. Rushmore of sitcom actresses- Ball, Moore, and Louis-Dreyfus would surely take three of the spots. Who would the fourth be; Betty White maybe?

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  48. So at this point it seems that we've narrowed the list of favorite comic actresses to every woman who ever appeared in a comedy film or television series.

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  49. Miss Coco Peru, Jennifer Coolidge, all the gals from Sex and the City except for SJP, all the gals from AbFab.

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  50. Kevin FitzMaurice7/21/2020 10:16 PM

    One more...Julia Duffy.

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  51. I used to find Kate McKinnon hilarious. Now, not so much. I feel like she's trying too hard or something. I find her stuff brings SNL to a halt (to me), until Cecily Strong picks it back up again.

    Kudos to Anonymous for his/her list... Holland Taylor kills it in everything she's in!

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  52. Nanette Fabray on Caesar's Hour was amazing.

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  53. Jim, Cheers Fan7/22/2020 8:43 AM

    I used to find Kate McKinnon hilarious. Now, not so much. I feel like she's trying too hard or something.

    She's very talented, but Michaels went to her once (or twice, or three times...) too often for impressions. "It's a woman playing a Republican man! That will piss off trump!" And I say that as someone who hates trump (and Giuliani, and Sessions, and Lindsey G) with the white hot intensity of Diane Chambers' thousand suns.

    No love for Bebe Neuwirth?

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  54. Put Shelley Long and Carol Burnett at the top of my list too.

    More recent ones:

    Desi Lydic (writer on Comedy Central's Daily Show)

    And a couple of recent Jimmy Kimmel guest hosts:

    Iliza Shlesinger

    Whitney Cummings

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  55. As a Brit, let me add Victoria Wood, a bona fide comedic genius and much missed.

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  57. I agree with most of the list and will only add Markie Post, Jane't Dubois, Katy Sagal, Christina Applegate, Amanda Bearse, Kirstie Alley, Wendy Raquel Robinson, Terri J. Vaughn, Lori Beth Denberg, Julia Louis Dreyfous, Belita Moreno, Phylicia Rashad, Jackee Harry, Tichina Arnold, Tisha Campbell, Anna Maria Horsford, and Eva Gabor.

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  58. Someday we'll get to see Judy Greer headlining in a role that's worthy of Judy Greer.

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  59. John the Red7/23/2020 5:43 PM

    Great call on Jane Kaczmarek. She was absolutely brilliant in Malcolm in the Middle. How she never won any of the seven Primetime Emmys she was nominated for is beyond me. As I believe Julia Louis-Dreyfus said to her after she won it over Jane once, "You got robbed." I couldn't agree more - and a classy move by Julia.

    I see several people mentioned women from Laurel & Hardy shorts/movies. Bravo!!! Anita Garvin was the ultimate "if looks could kill" comedienne. Thelma Todd could play it battleaxe wife or sweetheart, to equally great effect. And don't forget Mae Busch. Lethal aim and an attitude to match.

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  60. Daniel Moniz7/23/2020 7:19 PM

    Leslie Jones? I can't believe anyone finds her funny, but I won't go into that.

    Question: You chose Sarah Silverman, who btw I really like, however, I thought you HATED potty humor? Is it because of her past and her still being friends with Jimmy Kimmel?

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  61. I'd could kick myself for forgetting Lawanda Page aka Aunt Esther! One of the most unique and truly hilarious comic women in the biz, and one of the most unique and hilarious period.

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  62. My one comment on your list is that I wish the ones who are dead...weren't.

    wg

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  63. Lauren Graham


    Sean

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  64. As a Broadway habitue, I must add Sutton Foster, Laura Benanti, Bebe Neuwirth, Kristin Chenoweth, Jackie Hoffman, Kelli O'Hara, Katie Finneran, Andrea Martin, Tammi Blanchard, Jennifer Simard, Beth Leavel, Annaleigh Ashford, Celia Keenabn-Bolger, Megan Hilty and--yes, I know you hate her but I don't care--Christine Baranski.

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  65. Dixon Steele7/25/2020 5:53 AM

    Not sure why all the continuing hate for Mindy Kaling. I loved the movie she wrote, LATE NIGHT, and her performance in it was fine.

    And you don't like Christine Baranski???!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajvCMC8Na3M

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  66. @Dixon Steele I don't think it's as much hate as it is just not finding her that appealing as the critics makes her out to be. I've seen her in only a little bit of things and she seems... fine. Not special or anything but there are other actresses out there who don't get half the push she does and imo deserve much more attention and love. For example younger actresses like China Anne McClain and Rhyon Brown, two very talented young black actresses who have such great skill at their ages yet of course are overlooked and deserve more push than actresses that are just ok or alright.

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  67. Kendall, I've occasionally good-naturedly chastised Ken for making less than flattering remarks about Baranski. Maybe "hate" is too strong a word, but he certainly doesn't care for her.

    It's also worth noting that at 68, she's not only as busy as ever but also remains a highly attractive and desirable woman. In an industry where 40 is the new Dead, that's not something to be easily dismissed. She's also a two-time Tony winner who's an accomplished singer and dancer in additional to her acting, and her marquee value is such that she was paid a huge amount of money (and given top billing) to play the supporting role of the maid in the 2008 revival of "Boeing Boeing"--which in turn won Mark Rylance the first of his three Tonys as well as another for Best Revival of a Play, none of which might have happened without her ability to open the show in the first place.

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  68. @mike Schlesinger I was actually referring to Mindy Kaling lol I actually like Christine especially when she played Dr. Nora on Frasier.

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