Monday, October 11, 2021

Kim Kardashian again?

So Kim Kardashian was on SNL last Saturday night.  Really?

Is Kim Kardashian even a thing anymore?

I didn’t watch it because it, well, I never watch anything Kim Kardashian is on.  She’s a person with no noticeable skill or talent and a product of how reality shows can turn vacuous people into vacuous celebrities.   What does Kim Kardashian contribute to society in any way?  

Yes, she benefits from nepotism, but nepotism alone isn’t to blame.  There are some very successful and deserving offspring of famous people.  Ken Griffey Jr., Rob Reiner, Miley Cyrus, Robin Thicke, Steph Curry, Hannah Einbinder, J.J. Abrams, just to name a few.  

But not all are worthy.  And I was reminded of that recently when TCM replayed a Nancy Sinatra TV special from 1967 recently.  Being a big fan of the ‘60s I tuned in for the nostalgia and what I found was this:

Nancy Sinatra was terrible.  She has a two-note singing range.  She can’t act. She can’t dance. Her attempts of being sultry and sexy are laughable.  If she weren’t Frank Sinatra’s daughter, and didn’t get a record deal on Daddy’s label she couldn’t pass the open auditions of AMERICAN IDOL.  “Daddy” even appears in the special (probably why the greenlit it) and the guests included Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Frank Sinatra Jr., and singing group Dino, Desi & Billy.  Wonder how she got 'em.  And if she was trying to show how "groovy" she was in 1967, those were not the guests to get.  

The entire show was cringeworthy, lowlighted by a scene where Nancy basically sings a creepy love song to giant posters of her father.  And in one of the posters he’s holding a gun  (I laughed out loud).  

The kitsch factor was off-the-charts, which is the only reason I stuck around.  

But looking back, I really resented Nancy Sinatra.  Not her personally; she might be a wonderful person — but I resented that she was foisted upon me.  I never liked her songs, even “These Boots Are Made For Walking,” and the love duet with Daddy — “Something Stupid” — is beyond creepy.   For years I’ve been hearing about the Kardashians — their idiotic exploits, ridiculous marriages, etc.  When I hear people talk about them I think, “Why???  Who gives a shit???”   

So I didn’t watch SNL this week.   My boots were indeed made for walking. 

71 comments :

Malcolm Burns said...

Can't disagree with your post however in Kim's defense she does seem open-minded about having jokes be on her. Letterman used to give it to her pretty good, and cruelly,
and she kept showing up.

Friday question. Putting two of your favorites together, sports and radio, what do you think about sports radio hosts like Jim Rome, do you ever listen?

Jeff said...

Agreed. I automatically DVR SNL but when I saw the host and musical guest I deleted it.

Darwin's Ghost said...

The popularity of the Kardashians doesn't surprise me in a country where the rapist reality show host who inherited his fortune from his KKK supporting father can become president.

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The way Stanley Kubrick utilized These Boots in Full Metal Jacket was genius. For that reason, I'm cool with Nancy Sinatra.

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Looking forward to reading your verdict on No Time to Die. I thought it was good, Ana De Armas is beautiful, Craig gives his best performance as Bond, but it's too long, the Billie Eilish theme song is awful, and CGI explosions in a Bond movie are unforgivable.

lizfinnarnold said...

Here's the thing -- Kim Kardashian held her own on SNL. She had fun with it and garnered real laughs. I'm also not sure why people keep contending she lacks talent. Keeping eyes glued to your show for 18 seasons takes talent.

Yes, the SNL writers pandered to her. Almost every sketch was a Kardashian parody. Yes, they booked a ton of "special guests" like Amy Schumer and John Cena, probably anticipating she'd flop.

But she didn't flop. She didn't flop at all.

I can't explain how and why the Kardashians rule the world. But I no longer fight it or am envious of it. It just is.

Craig Gustafson said...

In the mid 1990s, having nothing better to do, Nancy Sinatra posed nude for Playboy. A female friend of mine who is not normally catty said, "Gee. I hope I can have an airbrush that good when I'm her age."

Mike Barer said...

I've been a Nancy Sinatra fan since the 60s and I asked Howard Kaylan https://mvbarer.blogspot.com/2015/12/turtle-autograph.html (the Turtles lead singer) when he lived a mile from our store, what she was like.
He said Nancy was very down to earth, likable, and loved to interact with fans.
On Twitter, she does a good back and forth with fans. She also is outspoken on women's issues and not a Trump fan at all.

Elf said...

I have nothing against the Kardashians for cashing in on Kim's initial 15 minutes of infamy. It's not like they had any other marketable skills, but hey, if people were stupid enough to listen to them, want to look like them, want to act like them, smell like them and so on to the point where they're richer than anyone reading this will ever be, then more power to them. The fault lies with those brain-dead people who do listen to them, worship them, emulate them and hand over their money to them like they were a televangelist.

VincentS said...

To paraphrase the great George S. Kaufman (from words that were brilliantly paraphrased in an episode of FRASIER), there are some telescopes in Earth orbit right now that can see to the farthest reaches of this galaxy and others that can see even further than that. If the combined power of all those telescopes were pointed at me no one would find a single part of me that is the least bit interested in Kim Kardasian. I literally wouldn't know her if I passed her on the street.

Markus said...

Care to elaborate in what way exactly Robin Thicke is "deserving" of anything? Are you sure you really understand what type of person that is, and what he stands for with his sleazy-creepy image and hack-ish output for other slimebag "bros" of the insufferable kind?

Jeff Alexander said...

Mr. Levine:
I'm sorry but I have to take you to task on Nancy Sinatra.
First, frankly, she's a better singer than her brother was.
Second, I didn't find "Something Stupid" creepy at all -- it was somewhat endearing to hear them duet (and what other song would have been appropriate for a father-daughter team?). Maybe the material wasn't necessarily right, but I never thought of it as them singing to each other but about the respective dates they each had. Like father, like daughter. Although, yes, there is that line about "your perfume fills my head". Hmmmmm.
Third, like you probably do with celebrities who share your date of birth, I always have felt a little bit of a kinship with "Daughter of Artanis" (don't understand the reference? Rewatch "The Masterpiece" episode of "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and you'll get it!) since we were both born June 8 (different years!).
Fourth, I do enjoy "Boots" and "Sugar Town"!
As for the special itself, I taped it off AMC years ago (when the channel did show true classics) and, yep, I knew even then it was kitsch. But it was a heckuva lot more fun than more specials that took themselves seriously at that time. After all, it had Dino, who ambled through the proceedings like he did his own variety show.
And, yep, I also passed on SNL BECAUSE it had a Kardashian. Still don't know exactly what that is and really couldn't care less.

404 said...

I don't get the Kardashians either ... never watched one second of them and I really can't stand how famous they are for basically being vapid, insipid do-nothings.

That being said, Kim actually did a really good job on SNL. Front-to-back it was really one of the most enjoyable episodes in a while, stretching back to last season. She did much better than I was expecting (and yes, as mentioned above, every skit was basically a Kardashian parody or pandering to her in some way, but why not? Why not play to the guest host?)

I recommend going back and giving it a try. It's better than you think it will be.

Daniel said...

Maybe after a week of struggling to make Elon Musk funny, the writers wanted a more relaxing work week, so they decided to go where the jokes were and let the scripts practically write themselves (even if they were risking some cheap laughs).

Of course, they could have avoided the problem by not inviting either host.

My solution as a viewer, for years, has been to avoid the show more or less completely, unless a really noteworthy segment pops up online. Most of those segments tend to involve Kate McKinnon.

kent said...

Nancy Sinatra's best performance was her spread in Playboy. She did it years after her heyday and was still in remarkably good shape. Plus she couldn't sing, act or dance there, so it was all good.

JS said...

I have no idea how she did because I didn't watch it. I don't think you can give an opinion on something you didn't watch. She is very good at making money. I wish I knew her secret.

scottmc said...

I also watched the Nancy Sinatra program.I was curious why it was on TCM. While I can't disagree with your overall assessment, I did enjoy the RC Cola commercials. I watched the movie that followed it, MARRIAGE ON THE ROCKS, which starred Frank, Dean and Deborah Kerr. It wasn't that much better than Nancy's variety show. But the opening credits featured something of a rarity. The movie was produced by the Director of Photography, William H.Daniels. I can't think of another movie where the D.P. was also the producer.

Honest Ed said...

If I was to be catty about anything, it'd be shoehorning Robin Thicke alongside Rob Reiner, JJ Abrams and even Miley Cyrus...!!!

Fortunately I live in a largely Kardashian free country.

Chuck said...

I tuned out of SNL after the truly awful opening Facebook segment. I did go back to it for Weekend Update. That was acceptable as it has been. Switched over to HBOMax for the british "Ghosts" which someone on this very site recommended. Pretty good show.

Just one more thing... Jar Jar Abrams???

Joseph Scarbrough said...

Unfortunately, none of the entire Kraptrashian klan has ever stopped being things . . . Khloe the illegitimate Kraptrashian has been doing commercials lately and apparently is going to be hosting a game show, meanwhile, Kris Jenner has been shamelessly plugging herself in commercials for Hulu, which is just another reason not to use their service anymore ever since they stopped being a free alternative to YouTube and became a pay-for subscription streaming service to compete with Netflix.

Mike Barer said...

I'm probably the only one that didn't find Kim's monologue funny. I didn't even crack a smile. However, before you measure me for a casket, I did find the featured artist, Halsey, quite talented.

Curt Alliaume said...

One piece of good advice Frank Sinatra gave Nancy was to retain ownership of her master tapes. I know she wasn't the best singer on the planet, but almost every artist from that era, Frank included, let the record companies own their master tapes. (I think the only exceptions to that rule were Johnny Rivers and Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons.)

If nothing else, she didn't lose them in the Universal fire from a few years back (we can assume Frank's Capitol master tapes went away when that happened).

Glenn said...

I've always believed the entire Kardashian family are nothing but walking insults to the Brown and Goldman families.

Mibbitmaker said...

Ever since I could watch every weekend (post-divorce situation, alternating weekends lead to every-other weekend viewing), with one exception over a death in the family late in 1979, I made a rule for myself that I'd always watch the live SNLs, even if I couldn't stand the host.
Even including both times Orange Schicklegruber hosted. SNL being my all-time favorite TV show, even with its ups and infamous downs.

I cannot stand the "fame" of the Kardashians either. Especially given their dad's connection to OJ and that trial. Really, isn't Paris Hilton too much already?! But my rule stands, so I watched.

Like others already said, Kim K. was able to do major self-deprecation, including a couple OJ jokes I like to think Norm MacDonald would've appreciated.

I like Nancy Sinatra's music just fine. I do agree the duet with her dad is creepy, though. However, I'm especially fond of one of her songs with Lee Hazelwood, Some Velvet Morning - a strange, haunting clash of styles telling two sides of a situation.

John in NW Ohio said...

Are the Kardashians responsible for the Vocal Fry pandemic which seems to afflict nearly every woman (and some guys) west of the Mississippi? Even many educated women, like the Facebook whistleblower on 60 Minutes last week, slip in and out of Vocal Fry. Why, why why? It is HORRIBLE.

thomas tucker said...

I think she's a better singer than you give her credit for. She was great on You Only Live Twice, and she has some recordings that are really good, e.g. The Hungry Years, which is on her album Shifting Gears. It has some really good numbers on it and her range is better than what you've said. Finally, I have a friend who is a friend of hers and she sounds like a really nice person.

Dave H said...

I refuse to accept these "celebrities" who do not have any talent. They are famous for just existing it seems. And I really hate when Hollywood tries to force feed you someone. This "comedian" Pete Davidson is the latest. I don't think he has said one funny thing on SNL in all the years he has been on there and now all of a sudden he is being cast in movies! Why? Who is demanding to see more of him? I have never met or know a fan of this guy.

Mitch said...

Like the Gabor sisters, KK is famous for nothing, and keeps going with it. NEver seen a second of her TV show, nor will I. But what her SNL hosting showed was she can't act, can't move on stage, but can take a joke. Show wasn't bad, she was hosted because it makes a train wreck, who doesn't slow down to watch a wreck?
This all fuels her continue following, by who, I haven't a clue.

No said...

I also did not watch this week's SNL. Fuck them for promoting the phony Kardashian enterprise.

However, if this can be a soothing balm in favor of Nancy Sinatra, maybe all is not so bad:

Some Velvet Morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2rfZdqinIA

Lemuel said...

On a related note, I'd like to see Lee Hazelwood's "A Cowboy in Sweden" again.

Ted. said...

I actually thought she was pretty good. She knows how to play to an audience, and has a relaxed presence on camera. (As opposed to her mother, who who looked like a deer in the headlights and could barely read the cue cards during her brief appearance.) It was the writers who had no idea what to do with Kim, which is why the monologue, and all the sketches that were about her or her persona, were terrible. But in the one sketch that actually made me laugh -- an absurdist parody of a TV news lotto drawing -- Kim was just playing a role, and fit right in with the cast. (Of course, the fact that there was only one sketch that made me laugh says something about "SNL" as a whole these days.)

Brian Phillips said...

Frank Sinatra, Jr.'s voice also fails in comparison to his Dad's. I had his record (it was part of a larger collection) and let's face it, Sinatra brings to mind only one name, although Jr. did become Sr.'s musical director on tour.

As for Nancy, her voice is limited but "Some Velvet Morning" (written by Lee Hazlewood) is charmingly odd and even though SHE doesn't care for it, I like "Lightning's Girl", but I dig the over-the-top arrangement and the fuzz, not the goofy lyrics.

Neil D said...

I always thought "Something Stupid" was a lovely song. The fact that it's father/daughter singing it is a little weird, but I can file that away in the same part of my brain with all the songs like "You're Sixteen" where 20- or 30-somethings sing the praises of some sweet young girl. They're presumably playing the role of someone more appropriate, you're not supposed to imagine it's actually themselves singing.

Sometimes you wish they'd give you a little bit more to go on, though. Benny Mardones' "Into the Night" starts with "'She's just sixteen years old, leave her alone', they said." Well, yeah. If the narrator is seventeen or eighteen, then it's still good advice but more along the lines of "Cool your jets for a few years, slick". But if it's someone in his 30s as Mardones was at the time, then that's a completely different thing altogether. But the song has no further clues. Give me something to work with here, Benny.

Greg Ehrbar said...

The fact that the Nancy Sinatra special is even on TCM makes me delighted that TCM is staying true to its commitment to showing "content" of past eras, unexpurgated with as much historical background as possible. How often we have seen other entities start out utilizing their libraries and then abandoning them, sometimes even withholding them to force the success of their "initiatives."

I'll take a dozen Nancys in favor of heirs and estates more interested in their own careers and enterprises at the expense of the vault that sometimes only they can protect. Sometimes only they can be the champion of that heritage, as too many libraries have been (and are every minute) bought and rebought. The buyers cherry-pick what feeds the highest profit but cannot know the subtle contexts of a collection that must be carefully curated for lasting value. A databank cannot ever be truly intuitive--we keep seeing that proven over and over again.

I'm guessing that Barbara Broccoli has helped keep the Bond franchise going (and even brought Chitty Chitty Bang Bang to the London and Broadway stage) because of her father in a way that a total buyout with no heir involvement (even a courtesy) would have.

Okay, so she wasn't the greatest singer. Neither was Annette Funicello, but her success saved the Walt Disney Records division from closing down permanently, led to the Sherman brothers getting Walt Disney's attention and hiring on staff, and writing the Mary Poppins score--which financed the building and development of Walt Disney World, which is 50 years old this month.

Thank God for TCM. I know the new logo that flies up the screen looks like shish kabob, but that's mighty tasty.

Buttermilk Sky said...

Zach Vasquez of the Guardian reviewed SNL like it was CITIZEN KANE. The British enthusiasm for trash (like LOVE ISLAND) is a constant source of amazement.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/10/saturday-night-live-recap-kim-kardashian-west-halsey

Bobby said...

@Curt Alliaume:

Frank Sinatra owned his own masters from the early 1960s forward. Everything he recorded for Reprise (his own label) to the end of his life. That was one of the lures Reprise offered performers who were considering signing with the label: they retained ownership of their masters, and at some point rights to those masters would revert back to the performer.

Sinatra's Capitol Records masters remain safely in Capitol's own tape vaults and were unaffected by the vault fire at Universal, which was an entirely different facility.

Jake said...

And then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid...

Here's why I like Nancy: in 66 and 67, she joined Bob Hope's USO tour to Vietnam. Sure, it was probably good for her career, but it was something the service folk will always remember and appreciate. I'm one of them, tho they wouldn't allow the show in the delta in 67 so I didn't get to see any of it, live. I have seen the recorded versions. She still does shows to support the troops so she's 👍 to me.

Pete Grossman said...

Man, when I was old enough to realize Sinatra, Sr. and his daughter were singing “Something Stupid” to one another, I thought, WTF? Way before WTF was a thing. Cringe-worthy weird. Gee, I wonder what famous father/daughter over the last few years relationship reminds me of this today?

KayCee said...

Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks Nancy Sinatra is/was a terrible performer.

estiv said...

I think the fact that both Joe Namath and Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch had film careers proves that the battle was always lost.

littlejohn said...


A vacuous sack of skin with a fat ass and stupid to boot. Yet millions follow her. We truly live in a golden age.


littlejohn

Curt Alliaume said...

Bobby: you are correct on both counts. My apologies.

Brandon in Virginia said...

I watched the monologue. It was actually pretty funny, which says a lot considering I can't stand the Kardashians. I realize she was simply reading from cue cards, but I did get a kick out of her self-awareness.

Ralph C. said...

Two things…

1. To sum up the Nancy Sinatra and Kim Kardashian debates, I quote, thusly: “You're right from your side/And I'm right from mine”.

2. How does Nancy Sinatra’s singing compare to, oh, let’s say Nico’s?

Bestest.

Vincent said...

Ken, you may not be a fan of Nancy Sinatra the artist (when interviewed by Ben Mankiewicz on Friday night's TCM wraparounds, she admitted she wasn't much of an actress), but I sense you'd like Nancy the person (we follow each other on Twitter, where her intro is, "Mom, grandma, proud American. #TheResistance"). The "Movin' With Nancy" special was fun late-sixties kitsch; earlier this year, she issued "Start Walkin'," a compilation of her 1965-1976 music. Give her the benefit of the doubt.

And, as noted earlier, she despises Donald Trump (so did her dad): https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/29/nancy-sinatra-ill-never-forgive-trump-voters-i-hope-the-anger-doesnt-kill-me

Lorimartian said...

A young Frank Sinatra could sing, but as he got older, he sang flat and more flat. For me, Matt Monro, Steve Lawrence, and Sammy Davis, Jr. are the gold standard.

I give Kim Kardashian a small (very small) break for her work to free the falsely imprisoned. At least she's attempting to do something to benefit humankind, unlike the rest of her family. That said, she is not an entertainer, and I found her a strange choice to host SNL.

As for Halsey, which is the case with many young singers today, I had a hard time understanding the lyrics...and I don't suffer from hearing loss. It's aggravating.

Kevin FitzMaurice said...

I second all that...from all I've seen, Nancy Sinatra seems like a lovely, modest, gracious person. As for her singing, she performed a fine arrangement of "This Girl's In Love with You"--the female version of Herb Alpert's "This Guy..."--on the Sullivan show in '68. It's on YouTube.

Kosmo13 said...

I have zero knowledge of or affection for any Kardashian, but I wondered if she weren't the one cheapening / demeaning herself by agreeing to associate herself with Saturday Night Live.

I disagree about Nancy Sinatra not being sexy. At age 9, I already knew she was.

Some of her other better records are 'Hook and Ladder,' 'So Long, Babe,' and 'The City Never Sleeps At Night.'

Liggie said...

Instead of watching SNL, I check the sketches uploaded to YouTube. That way I don't have to sit through commercials or the inevitable clunker sketch (there were enough of those when I regularly watched in the Dana Carvey years). I've only seen the cold opens out of this year's offerings, but I will say that the new performer playing Biden is a find.

What baffles me as much as the Kardashian syndrome is how a lot of women find Pete Davidson adorable and even sexy (like his "Chad" character). It's not just Internet fans; he was once engaged to Ariana Grande and was linked to Kaley Cuoco. I will say that his personal story is a tough one, as he lost his first responder father in 9-11.

I saw that Nancy Sinatra special on AMC those years ago, and I enjoyed the window to mid-'60s popular culture. That brings up something I've pondered; if the US had never gotten involved in Vietnam, would it have experienced the hippie/Woodstock counterculture movement of the late-'60?

Brian said...

Didn't like the cold open. I fast forwarded past the monologue to weekend update. Watched that and called it a night.

DyHrdMET said...

What's a Kardashian?

Anthony Adams said...

For me, Matt Monro, Steve Lawrence, and Sammy Davis, Jr. are the gold standard.
the PBS special on Sammy Davis jr. is just amazing.
Nancy and Frank Junior made their best efforts. I give them credit for that.

spoiler alert:

just watched Matt Amodio do a terrible job of throwing Jeopardy tonight. next time read the question board; don't ask the player to fake a competition

Jake Redux said...

On Decades channel this afternoon, Ed Sullivan with guest Nancy Sinatra.

Charles Bryan said...

I watched it, mostly for the potential-disaster factor. I thought that she was sort of a stiff in the sketches, but no worse than a number of other non-actor hosts, like Steven Seagal.

Leighton said...

I had to look up Abrams' parents. I would hardly consider them "famous."

kenju said...

I could not agree with you more....about both Kim and Nancy.

Mark said...

My mom always said that Somethin' Stupid was the most perfectly named song ever written.

Sue said...

I have a soft spot for Nancy Sinatra and especially like her duets with Lee Hazlewood.

YEKIMI said...

Well......"Somethin' Stupid" was written by A songwriter named Carson Parks. Along with his musical partner Gaile Foote they released the song as "Carson & Gaile" in 1967 before Frank & Nancy. Once Frank heard the demo, which he loved, he said he'd do it if "Nancy would do it." Otherwise if Frank had said no, it would have been Lee Hazelwood, Nancy's producer and sometimes singing partner, singing on the record."The Nancy/Frank version is the very first song I ever requested from a DJ way back when they used to do requests. Strange to think that the radio waves with my voice have now traveled 54 light years into the void so, if they're listening out there' about 1400 star systems containing 2000 stars [of which only about 133 are visible with the naked eye] have heard me requesting this song......yeah, yeah, I know, the signal would have attenuated into being unlistenable but I'm sure some alien radio geek has built a contraption that could pick it up....and probably saying "Hey, Glyzlephrib, listen to this dorky human requesting this cheesy song!"

Philly Cinephile said...

The venom directed at Nancy Sinatra strikes me as excessive.

Funny that Ralph C. mentioned Nico because I have long associated Nancy and Nico. During my first year at NYU, I would comb the used record stores in Greenwich Village, looking for their albums. Also, on Nancy's second album, she recorded a duet with Lee Hazlewood called "Sand" that sounded like a Velvet Underground song, but was released a year before that band released their first album. (I can easily imagine Lou Reed and Nico singing it...)

As for the Kardashians, the best thing to do is ignore them. They thrive on publicity, and even a negative blog entry keeps them active in news feeds, Google searches, and the like.

Don Kemp said...

Kardashian only became a celebrity when her pimp mother parlayed the sex tape into a reality series. Along the way, they decided to revere the father Kardashian the pimp mother divorced to make sure we all knew who they were. They've become famous because stupid people give them piles of money to fake their lives for TV while they screw half the black rapper population, throwing in a few basketball players for good measure. All the Kardashian women young and old admittedly earn an ungodly amount of money for being willing. Period. However, the pimp mother is so hard to deal with even her O.J. fall guy husband left her and the second husband was driven to cut off his dick.

That about covers it.

D. McEwan said...

"There are some very successful and deserving offspring of famous people."

Like John Huston, and - ah - Liza Somebody.

I recorded that Nancy Sinatra special. Why? Because I knew part of it was shot in Pacific Ocean Park in 1967, shortly after P.O.P. closed forever. I love P.O.P., but it was weird to see dancers gyrating (really bad) choreography all over the empty, rotting park. I had brains enough to fast-forward through the rest of the show.

I've known Nancy Sinatra was talent-free since the day I spent in 1969 on the Laugh-In set watching Nancy shoot her guest-starring episode. She was a total bore. But not long after, she married Laugh-In's choreographer. (I was very surprised. Watching him onset all season I was sure he was gay, not that marrying Nancy Sinatra proves otherwise.)

I watched KK's SNL hosting gig. You know how bad you think she probably was? Well, she was worse, far, far worse. I did so much fast-forwarding, I got through the entire 90-minutes episode in 40 minutes. It was SNL's most-shameful episode since Trump hosted.

D. McEwan said...

" lizfinnarnold said...
Here's the thing -- Kim Kardashian held her own on SNL. She had fun with it and garnered real laughs."


No, she did not.

"Anonymous Malcolm Burns said...
Can't disagree with your post however in Kim's defense she does seem open-minded about having jokes be on her. Letterman used to give it to her pretty good, and cruelly, and she kept showing up."


Well, a whore will always show up when paid to.

John Fox said...

Spot on as always, Ken. KK is and always has been a big "whu'?" Gotta agree on Nancy Sinatra too with the exception that she did come off as humble, genuine and likeable in her recent guest spot on TCM doing Zoom intro/outros for her awful acting exploits. Was there ever a more unfunny parody as "The Last of the Secret Agents"? Did we really used to think Martin and Rossi were funny? As for offspring of singers being foisted upon us, can you say Debbie Boone? Boy, did I ever resent playing that song on the radio.

Mike McCann said...

I'm with you on 90 percent of your comments on Nancy. However, "These Boots Are Made for Walking" is a flat out great song.

Just imagine someone with a real voice -- say, Linda Ronstadt, Debbie Harry or Carly Simon performing it. Perhaps, someone of the contemporary generation will take a look at this great Lee Hazelwood composition and decided it's time to freshen it up.

gottacook said...

I saw that Nancy Sinatra special on AMC, probably more than 10 years ago. One thing I can concur with is that she has a very limited vocal range; I'm not going to actually measure it, but replaying in my head "Sugartown," "These Boots," and her segments of "Some Velvet Morning" leads me to think she has no more than one and a half octaves at her disposal.

However, her record "Sugartown" is perfect as it is; what singer of the era would have been better for it? (Astrud Gilberto would have been the closest equivalent, I guess.) And I love how it was used to introduce season 2 of Better Call Saul.

Gary said...

I'm a little late to the party, but here's my Nancy Sinatra story: A few years ago I was at a vintage record collectors show and I came across one of Nancy's albums, with a very sexy cover photo of her in a very small bikini. I asked the seller how much he wanted for the album and he said $10. I asked him how much he'd take for just the cover alone, with no record inside. Without skipping a beat he said, $20.

MikeKPa. said...

Despite how his sometimes volcanic temper, from all accounts he produced three nice kids. I recently watched a Sopranos episode where Frank Jr. played him in a high-stakes poker game run by Tony. They called him "Chairboy of the Board" and he was a good enough sport to go along with the dig. That says something.

I did watch some of SNL. The People's Kourt skit was lame and just a vanity opportunity to get more Kardashians on the show. Kim knows she can't act, but is laughing all the way to the bank.

John Fox said...

I meant Allen and Rossi. See? That's how forgettable they were.

John said...

There is one Nancy Sinatra song that has a cool factor--"Some Velvet Morning"--which she and Lee Hazlewood recorded. I heard it for the first time on the in-house system in a Starbucks a few years ago. It's very weird. Not a hit, but could have worked well on a suspense movie soundtrack.

Malaspina said...

I listened to some old Nancy Sinatra music ~ a year ago. Shindig! Magazine [Issue 112] did a cover story and got me interested. She did some nice stuff with Lee Hazelwood but I investigated some of her other work. Actually quite good and stands up.

I haven't watched SNL in over 20 years. Oh,who is Kim Kardashian? Hard to believe.

Luv you blog.

tavm said...

This will probably the final comment on this topic:

Nancy Sinatra-Fine-looking with bleached blond hair and a voice, despite her limited range, perfect for songs like "These Boots Were Made for Walking" and other hits that were written for her. Actually, I also liked her version of "This Girl's in Love with Her" that I saw on YouTube from an Ed Sullivan clip. I also rewatched her on YT of her guest spot on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" where the host mentioned her Playboy layout, her father's reaction (Double the pay), and the fact she was 54 at the time. Enjoyable enough though some comments below of her cosmetic alterations did make me agree with some of them that maybe she could have aged gracefully. Still, I like her both as a person and entertainer.

Kim Kardashian West-At least she's not Paris Hilton, as far as I know. And she wasn't bad concerning her performances on "SNL". But I'm very glad that's now over!

mike schlesinger said...

FWIW, I've encountered Nancy twice (albeit in recent years, not in the '60s), and in both cases she struck me as warm and very down-to-earth. No, she ain't Ella Fitzgerald, but nobody is.