Tuesday, March 08, 2022

Lucy and Desi - the new documentary

If you love Lucy and even like Desi, the new documentary on Amazon Prime, LUCY AND DESI is for you.  Way better than a certain "fictional" version recently released.  Directed by Amy Poehler, it’s a fascinating portrait chock-full of home movies, never-before-seen footage and photos, and interviews with the likes of Carol Burnett, Bette Midler, and yes, even Charo.  

And here’s the best part: It’s narrated by Nicole Kidman!  No, just kidding.  It’s narrated by Lucy and Desi.  They had made quite a few audio recordings and cassettes.  Many of the tapes were on reel-to-reel so kudos to whoever restored them because if not properly treated they would turn to dust.   Hearing them talk about themselves and each other in their own voices was wonderful.  Filling in the holes was their daughter Lucie.  

The film really celebrates both Lucy and Desi and what made them both so great.  And yet it’s not a puff piece.  Greatness came with a price. They deal with Lucy’s controlling nature, Desi’s drinking and womanizing and why their marriage was hardly a fairy tale despite having a really nice pool.  What I found amusing is the issues that the "fictional" account made such a big deal of — CBS not wanting to hire Desi, CBS not wanting them to do a pregnancy storyline, Lucy’s bout with the House on Un-American Activities Committee — were all touched upon but very briefly.  Probably because those were all aspects of their lives WE KNEW ABOUT.  This documentary sought to tell us things we didn’t.  And for the most part it succeeded.   There were still some minor factual errors, but overall after you’ve seen this film you will have a pretty good sense of who they both were and the impact they both had.  

LUCY AND DESI is streaming on Amazon Prime.  Ironically, so is the "fictional" movie.   If you’re going to watch only one of the two, I recommend the one with Charo in it. 

28 comments :

Brian Phillips said...

I look forward to seeing this.

All the other retrospectives about Lucille Ball, mention Desi Arnaz's rise to fame, Ball's rise to fame, their mutual success an what drove them apart, with very short shrift given to the Gary Morton years or Morton himself. Granted, he was not with her during her first flush of fame, but they were married longer that Lucy and Desi were. I'd be curious about a documentary of these years, unless Morton's family don't wish to do this.

QUESTION: Do streaming networks give less or more notes to shows than broadcast networks do/did?

ventucky said...

I literally just finished watching it a minute before seeing this blog. It was so far superior to the dramatization. I see nothing of Lucy and Desi in Nicole and Javier's performance.The fact that it is nominated for Oscars just points out how the movie industry is almost done, compared to premium cable shows. This documentary took me through my childhood of I love Lucy reruns everyday, and her later shows as they were current. Highly recommend it also.

stephanie said...

This documentary was very good and left me wanting to hear more of their tapes. I have not bothered to watch the fictional account of their lives.

Mike Barer said...

The podcast that you did about the show on Hollywood and Levine a while back without any audio aids was also noteworthy.

Andrew said...

You had me at "Directed by Amy Poehler."

ScarletNumber said...

In a similar vein, Foxcatcher was screened at Cannes in May 2014, while The Prince of Pennsylvania was an ESPN documentary aired in October 2015. Both are about John du Pont and both are excellent.

ScarletNumber said...

@Brian Phillips

You are missing the point if you truly wonder why a Lucy documentary or movie would feature Desi more than it would Gary Morton. While she was married to Morton longer, she was married to Desi for 20 years and he is the father of her children, never mind being her husband during the height of her popularity as well as her co-star.

Rick Hannon said...

"I recommend the one with Charo in it." I'm fairly confident that these words have never been arranged in this order ever before in the history of the world ...

D. McEwan said...

I watched the documentary a couple days ago. Yes, it's quite excellent.

Leighton said...

I found this pointless.

On another note... I despise "Pieces of Her." It is a muddled mess. People doing stupid things. UGH.

Mitch said...

Have you ever met Charo?

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Todd Long said...

My son is taking an "America in the 1970s" class in college, and this question was on the midterm: "What can a viewer expect to take away from an episode of MASH?" I was curious as to how you would answer that.

Bob K said...

The NY Post published a really nice interview with Lucie Arnaz a few days ago. (Link below)
It touched on the documentary, the movie and other things. What struck me was the producers initially pitched an approach that according to Lucie, was “all wrong.” Kudos to the producers for listening and pivoting. I’m looking forward to watching this.

https://pagesix.com/2022/03/04/new-documentary-lucy-and-desi-shows-real-lives-of-comedians/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

Fred said...

Rick Hannon 3/08/2022 8:49 AM
"I recommend the one with Charo in it."
I'm fairly confident that these words have never been arranged in this order ever before in the history of the world ...”


For over 50 years, it’s been a blurb on the Carnegie Deli celebrity sandwich menu

Mike Chimeri said...

Thank you so much, Ken, for bringing Lucy and Desi to my attention. I'm with you: forget the dramatization. I don't have to see that, and I won't, to know this is far superior, especially with Amy Poehler's involvement.

Todd brought up M*A*S*H, which reminds me to acknowledge--and I've been meaning to for a while--that I follow an Instagram account for an White Labrador named Charles Emerson Winchester.

Jahn Ghalt said...

I've been enjoying this documentary in small chunks, so far with relish (Lucy provides the mustard).

Seems I've got "the algorithm" worried, it wants to tell me what to "watch next".

Unknown said...

Ken:

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Michael Dean said...

I don't know what happened to me but I generally prefer documentaries these days.

Darwin's Ghost said...

"No sexually explicit, gratuitously violent, obscene scripts or excessive foul language"

Killjoys.

LMNtrees said...

Wonderful, I will check it out. Also, love your blog.

sanford said...

You might want to check this out but I have no idea if it is streaming somewhere. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0296731/ Nina Metz of the Tribune mentioned this in her review of the documentary. There is also a PBS doc which you can watch on you tube.

JessyS said...

@ Todd Long

Here is how I would answer the M*A*S*H question.

Though MASH is an anti-war series at its heart, it captures the heroics of a group of medical soldiers as they save lives on a daily basis. Like many sitcoms of that era, this show captures the era of life perfectly. Both the movie and series are based on real life experiences of the Korean War but also reflect the realities of Vietnam and the pictures shown on American TV screens as people were injured or died in battle.

404 said...

Friday question about your writing/thought process: I've noticed that most of your posts end with some sort of call-back zinger, where you reference something mentioned earlier in the piece. This one, for example, ends with the call back to Charo. I know this is a pretty standard bit of comedy writing, and in general a good way to end a piece no matter the genre.

My question is how do you, Ken Levine, typically go about setting those up? Did you begin to write the piece, put in the line about Charo early on as you were writing, and then realize you could reference back to it when you got to the end and needed that zinger? Or did you get to the end and need a zinger, decide you wanted to somehow mention Charo, and then work backwards to try and figure out how and where to best put a mention of her in the piece earlier so it would make sense to bring her up later? And, what is your typical process for this sort of joke?

Brian Phillips said...

@ScarletNumber:

Thank you for the condescension, but at no point in my post did I say WHY Desi Arnaz was featured more than Gary Morton was. As I said in my second sentence, "All the other retrospectives about Lucille Ball...", which implied, (I thought) awareness of the chronology of her life. Even if I wasn't, and I didn't say this in my original post, "I Love Lucy" was on the air CONSTANTLY as I grew up, so I knew that it certainly was popular, to say the least.

Also, I hope you don't think I'd be such corn-fed dope to think that a something called, "Lucy and Desi" would be required to have anything to do with Morton.

Instead of repeating what we both know, do you know of any books or documentaries that delve into the Morton years? THAT was the point of my post.

Spike de Beauvoir said...

@Brian Phillips

Re "corn-fed dope":

You must be a Preston Sturges fan. That phrase is in a scene from "Miracle of Morgan's Creek" (Betty Hutton and Diana Lynne, the morning after Trudy's wild night with the boys):

- It had a "Z" in it.

- His hair?

- No, his name, foolish. Like Ratzkiwatzki, Pvt. Ratzkiwatzki...or was it Zitzkiwitzki?

- With a name like that I'd forget him.

- Now you knocked it out of my head!

- What's the matter with us? If you got married,you must have given your name. Now all we've got to do is find out where you got the license. We've got your name, his name, the date and everything, and there you are.

- I just remembered something else.

- What?

- Somebody said, "Don't give your right name."

- But you didn't fall for it? You told them to go suck a lemon. You weren't such a corn-fed dope as to...What name did you give?

- I don't remember.

- Then the guy can't ever find you even if he comes looking for you. Then we'll never even know if you got married.

- I hope not.

Unknown said...

Have you all forgotten that Lucy and Desi were divorced in 1960?

Brian Phillips said...

@Spike de Beauvoir:

Yes, I am an unabashed Preston Sturges fan and that is precisely what I was referring to. I first saw this and "Hail the Conquering Hero" on a double bill at the late, great Ken Cinema in San Diego. I didn't the HTCH would be as funny as TMOMC. I was happily mistaken.

@Unknown
Scroll up and re-read either of my posts.

Spike de Beauvoir said...

@Brian Phillips

Hail the Conquering Hero is a fantastic comedy and satire of "mom-ism" during wartime. I wrote a thesis on Preston Sturges with a focus on Christmas in July and taught classes on his films.

I found a site with some of his best scripts, they're transcripts without stage directions but just reading the dialogue is very enjoyable.

https://www.scripts.com/director/preston_sturges