Since a number of you referenced this, and at the time it actually made all the papers, I thought I would re-post my celebrated blog fight with Roseanne. This was from May 2011. Links are provided to previous articles. Thanks to reader Kris for finding Roseanne's rebuttal. Also read some of the comments her readers posted.
To get you up to speed if you're not familiar with the story, she wrote (or someone ghost wrote) an article for NEW YORK magazine in which she claimed her life story was "stolen" from her, she was mistreated on the set because she's a woman, the show's creator didn't deserve credit -- in short she was a tragic victim. Many readers asked me to comment, which I did. You can link to my original article. Roseanne then countered with a barrage of personal insults. What follows is my response.
This is what ABC was buying and they knew it going in. But the potential upside was huge. I suspect their hope was they could get in a couple of years before the inevitable implosion. But unchecked craziness doesn't get better over time; it gets worse. So let's go back to simpler days when I was called an "Asshat" and she was crazy but not harmful.
Wow! Roseanne reads my blog! Cool! In her blog she posted a rebuttal to a piece I wrote last week about her article in
New York magazine.
Here’s what I wrote. And on Sunday she offered her rebuttal.
You can find that here.
It’s silly to even get into a debate.
I’d say the madness and paranoia of her rant speaks for itself. My
reaction to it was sadness. She’s battling enormous demons. For all
of her gifts and talent, that’s a steep price to pay.
I hope someday she finds some happiness in her life.
One loose end. In her blog post she wrote this:
I took responsiblity for bad behavior, but explained that the bad
behavior was during a nervous breakdown brought on by having to work in a
hostile work environment, and I am pretty sure that women who have
worked for you in the past (if indeed there were ANY) worked in a
hostile work environment. Let me know, women writers out there--how
were you treated on Ken Levine's staff?
Two women writers who worked with me and
for me responded -- Robin Schiff, who was the co-creator and
co-showrunner of ALMOST PERFECT with David Isaacs and I, and Linda
Teverbaugh who was a producer on that show. Also, I received a note
from Laurie Gelman. Not to stir the pot but she was the first woman
producer of ROSEANNE season one. Her account of that first year is
markedly different from Roseanne's. You decide. My thanks to Robin,
Linda, and Laurie.
And again, Roseanne, you
asked. Let me just conclude by saying if you're reading this in Hawaii,
I wish you aloha, trade winds, and anything to bring you some peace.
From Robin Schiff:
I am a women writer who has worked with Ken Levine on three different
occasions. Although he begged me to say nice things about him, I have
to be honest and talk about my true experience.
Several (okay, many) years ago, I brought Ken and his partner David
Isaacs an idea for a TV series. At the time, I didn’t have the
experience (or cachet) to make it happen on my own. Ken and David loved
the idea, which was about a strong, successful, likable, complex,
opinionated woman trying to juggle a happening career with a satisfying
lovelife. Not only did Ken and David get behind the fictional version
of the woman, they instantly embraced the “real version” (me) as an
equal and true partner. They were also my mentors, making sure I
learned every aspect of producing. What they taught me was
life-changing, giving me the tools to go on and have a career as one of a
handful of female show runners. There are many sexist guys in the
business, but Ken Levine is not one of them. The most sexist thing he
ever did was blather on about baseball with the other men in the room
despite the fact that I was visibly bored. Hardly grounds for a
lynching.
One final thought. I totally agree with Roseanne that there is rampant
sexism in the industry. A couple of weeks ago, the WGAw released its
executive summary finding that (in addition to dismal stats for
ethnically diverse or older writers), women comprise only 28% of working
writers. We still make less money than men. All you have to do is
look at the writers onstage accepting Emmys for late night talk shows
and sitcoms to see that women comedy writers are on the endangered list.
That being said, it undermines the validity of a very real issue for all
women anytime a woman explains away what might simply be fallout from
her own actions by charging it up to sexism. Maybe Matt Williams should
have given Roseanne a co-created-by credit for
Roseanne. I can’t comment on that. But to say that this was
because she was a woman doesn’t hold water since Matt Williams also took a sole created by credit on
Home Improvement
– which was based on Tim Allen’s stand-up act. I empathize with how
unfairly Roseanne feels she was treated. But sexist? I would love to
know how many female executive producers Roseanne employed on her own
show. Did she foster talented women writers and empower them to become
showrunners like Ken Levine and David Isaacs did with me? Just
wondering…
From Linda Teverbaugh:
I hate to say it, being a great admirer of "Roseanne," the series (much
of it, anyway), but Roseanne, the person, is talking out of her own
asshat. She's right about one thing: She did hire standup friends as
writers on the series. Tom Arnold's buddies, too. I know this because
I'm a female writer from a blue-collar family who got screwed out of a
job as a result. Thank you, Sister Woman. It was, however, my great good
fortune to work for Ken shortly thereafter. Ken doesn't share
Roseanne's fixation on "getting credit," so he'd never bring this up.
But too bad, Ken, I'm going to: While Roseanne was literally farting on
table drafts, throwing out scripts left and right, and as a
consequence, holding all the writers' lives hostage, Ken busted his ass
to keep the "Almost Perfect" room running efficiently, which meant
keeping peace with the stage, the studio, the network, and all the other
havoc makers who make sitcom hours exhausting or impossible. As far as I
know he did not do this by threatening anyone with scissors. Instead,
he made it possible for this working mother to leave work when the
Paramount day-care center closed for the day, take my toddler son home
and give him dinner. It meant the world to me, and, of all the female
sitcom writers I know with kids, I'm one of the rare ones who ever got
support like that. Sorry Roseanne, but that's fucking feminism.
And by the way, if Roseanne wanted "created by" credit, she needed to
sit down with Matt Williams and help break and write the story for the
pilot. That's what Drew Carey did with Bruce Helford.
And finally, from Laurie Gelman:
It didn’t take long for me to get a taste of the staggering sexism and
class bigotry that would make the first season of Roseanne god-awful.
This makes me laugh every time I read it. I don’t know how she defines
sexism, but she is one of the biggest perpetrators I have ever met. I
was the first female writer producer on Roseanne and she absolutely
refused to acknowledge me -- on stage or in the room. No eye contact.
Nothing. She’s one of these women ( and I’m sure lots of your female
writer friends can relate to this type) who likes to be the only woman
in the room and play up to all the men. I was actually astounded by
this because I expected her to be just the opposite. Now if you were
below the line and kissing her tuchas to keep your job, you may have
gotten another one of her many personalities, but this is a woman who is
definitely threatened by smart, funny women and has to alpha dog all
competitors. By the way, if the first season was so god-awful, how did
we make it to number 1?
It was at the premiere party when I learned that my stories and ideas—and the
ideas of my sister and my first husband, Bill—had been stolen.
Really???? People actually broke into their minds and took them???? I
was on the show from the rewriting of the pilot in New York all the way
through the first season. There was never any point where Matt Williams
did not include Roseanne in the creative process and actually want her
input. In fact, I have never worked with an EP more inclusive or fair (
or nicer) than Matt Williams. He bent over backwards to please her.
We made it a point to bring her into the room and get her take on every
idea before we laid out the stories. Obviously, we also accommodated
her notes on all the drafts. Additionally, Matt permitted her husband
Bill Pentland to sit in on all the rewrite tables, thus giving her
additional insurance that the Roseanne take on things was being
adequately addressed.
The pilot was screened, and I saw the opening credits for the first
time, which included this: CREATED BY MATT WILLIAMS. I was devastated
and felt so betrayed that I stood up and left the party.
Great. More food for us.