George Wendt discusses his early days at Second City, and what it was like to be on CHEERS. And we discuss the beer.
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George Wendt discusses his early days at Second City, and what it was like to be on CHEERS. And we discuss the beer.
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To me this is yet another sign that broadcast networks are on borrowed time. If a show is on NBC for four years you would think it would be some sort of a hit. It doesn’t have to win Emmys — WEBSTER and FULL HOUSE never won Emmys — but it should at least be known. Don’t you think? Four years? Yikes.
At least people heard of AfterMASH. Wait. That might not be a good thing.
From Philly Cinephile:
Any thoughts on the "We're going to Las Vegas!" episodes that so many sitcoms do? Are they mandated by the networks? I find that they tend to be among the weaker episodes of a series -- contrived and usually lacking the overall flavor of the series. I've often imagined them as a rite of passage for the writing staff of a show -- the dreaded "send them to Vegas" memo from the network.
Well, the simple answer is they run out of ideas.
But Vegas does provide you with lots of new stories your series wouldn’t have otherwise. Characters impulsively off to get married, characters having gambling problems, characters just going wild, etc.
There’s so much gaudiness in Las Vegas, so many things to poke fun at, that it’s somewhat of an easy target. How else are you going to work in Elvis impersonators?
And finally, from Paul:
One of the things I have been doing to keep sane in this insane world is to watch all 11 seasons of Cheers. I am now on Season 9 and last week saw episodes 8 and 9, the 200th anniversary episodes. My first question is this: how is that John McLaughlin ended up the host of the show? It seems an…unlikely choice. Second, was it difficult to get Shelley Long to return for this show? Is there a story behind that?
At some point, long-running series are asked to do a clip show (highlights of their many seasons). Let me tell you from personal experience, those are a giant pain in the ass.
The trick is to find a novel way to do it. CHEERS thought a panel discussion would be interesting. I loved the idea because it meant the Charles Brothers and Jim Burrows would finally get some screen time.
Not sure who came up with the idea of John McLaughlin, but he did lend a certain gravitas to the show. And he certainly was not someone you’d expect.
As for Shelley’s return, there was no difficulty at all. Remember, Shelley left the show on good terms. They were happy to invite her and she was happy to accept.
Shelley also did the final episode and two episodes of FRASIER — one (that David Issacs and I wrote) was just a ten second cameo and she still agreed to do it. And may I say, thank you, Shelley. That was a great joke thanks to you.
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WARNING: SNARK REVIEW AHEAD.
Just when you thought broadcast television could not get any more insipid, along comes the CELEBRITY DATING GAME. All of ABC’s “celebrity” game show remakes are abominable, but this one might just be the worst. So congratulations to them. It take a lot to be worse than a show starring Anthony Anderson's mother.
The original DATING GAME had its charm. There were stupid questions and answers (I know. I was a two-time contestant), but this was the 1960’s before single bars, matchmaking services, Tinder. And the couples went on actual dates. More about that later.
Jim Lange hosted the original with poise and gravitas. This new version, for unfathomable reasons, is hosted by Zoey Deshanel and even more mystifying, co-hosted by Michael Bolton. Imagine Alex Trebek being replaced on JEOPARDY by Paris Hilton. Zoey’s not even adorkable anymore. She's just.. out of place and with zero hosting skills. And Bolton has become Lurch of THE ADDAMS FAMILY.
The celebrities are the ones looking for dates. Huge celebrities like Hannah Brown. The bachelors have to guess who she is. Hint: It’s not Taylor Swift. One moron said Taylor Swift. I saw this on THE MASKED SINGER too where knothead judge, Jenny McCarthy thought one of the singers was Taylor Swift. News flash: TAYLOR SWIFT IS NOT GOING TO DO ONE OF THESE STUPID SHOWS. A better guess is one of the extras on GLADIATOR.
Some game shows age well. Others don’t. Since we’re now in the #MeToo era, the flirting and clumsy seduction that goes on feels really creepy. It’s from a different era. Who’s nostalgic for lounge lizards?
Most of the CELEBRITY DATING GAME is filler. There are three rounds of idiotic questions, not just one. The vapid co-hosts toss in inane comments. The bachelors are all central casting frat boys or braindead models. Michael Bolton sings a song. Again, what the hell is he doing on this thing?
Everybody dances around, trying to generate this horrible fake party atmosphere. And after watching a half-hour of this drivel, a winner is selected, and the show ends. Hey, what about the fucking DATE? They don’t even have a planned date. My guess is the "celebrities" said "I don't want to be obligated to go on a date with one of these idiots."
But if that's the case, just what the hell is the point? What are we watching? Why on every level does this nonsense even exist?
Let me end by giving this show a big DATING GAME kiss… off.
Repeat after me: It’s a MUSICAL.
I’ll be interested to see how the upcoming new WEST SIDE STORY, directed by Steven Spielberg does. It is a well-known musical although will kids care about seeing a 60 year-old musical? Will the songs play as classics or anachronistic? No big stars in this reboot. Yeah, in the original Natalie Wood couldn’t sing but she was Natalie Wood. Looking at the trailers of WEST SIDE STORY and IN THE HEIGHTS, they look very similar. WEST SIDE STORY has more depth but also more cobwebs. Time will tell, but if I were Spielberg I’d be saying, “Is there time to do some additional filming and add ET?” Of course, now there would be groups saying ET wasn’t tall enough and the movie should be pulled.
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Happy Fathers Day to all you daddios.
Here's me and my dad. I had just questioned the validity of the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
Lots of discussion about multi-cam shows this week. So why not one more?
When
you do a show multi-camera in front of an audience you always run the
risk that unforeseen circumstances will affect the crowd’s reactions.
There have been a number of times in my erstwhile career when shows that
should have played through the roof played through the floor. Here’s
why.
The most common enemy of all multi-cam shows: the air conditioning going
out. I've have had this happen a number of times. And with all the
blazing hot lights and no cross-ventilation a sound stage becomes
Satan's rumpus room in ten minutes. Comedy evaporates at 80 degrees.
Power failures can also curtail things. I’ve found that audiences do
not enjoy sitting in pitch-black darkness. Who knew??? Generally
generators restore the electricity pretty quickly, but the audience is
still unnerved. Anxiety is not the best warm up for promoting laughter.
And when the power goes out, so does the air conditioning. See paragraph three.
Rain is a problem. Usually an audience is asked to line up outside the
stage before being let in. There are no retractable roofs over movie
studios. Sometimes you can find shelter for the two hundred brave
souls or let them in earlier, but more times than not they’re exposed to
the elements. It’s hard to really yuck it up when your sweater
smells like a dead raccoon and your socks are soaked.
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Since we seem to be on the subject of multi-camera sitcoms this week....
No one hates phony laugh tracks more than me. Longtime readers of this blog (all six of them) know this. But I must set the record straight.
Number one: There is a big difference between genuine audience laughter and the phony canned laughter you so often hear, which to me is like taking a new car and tagging it.
A reader recently commented on a sitcom being given the “Charley Douglass treatment.” Charley was the man with the laugh box. Many of the laughs in that box were compiled from shows as far back as the ‘50s. There are people laughing on your television who have been dead for 30/40 years (talk about getting the last laugh). Some tracks have been used so frequently on so many shows that they’re actually identifiable.
But here’s the thing —
There is no “Charley Douglass treatment.”
Let me be very clear.
It is the show runner or someone representing the show that makes all the decisions. They’re the ones who determine when there should be a laugh, how big a laugh, whether to go with the dead woman’s guffaw. Charley just pushed the buttons.
So when you watch a show and cringe at how the laugh track is going crazy for every stupid lame line, don’t blame the box. Blame the insecure or deluded show representative who felt the need to create bogus hysterical laughter where none was justified.
I watched an episode of TAXI recently and was struck by the fact that several jokes didn’t work. And there was no effort made to hide that with fake laughter. You’d hear the line clank and then silence for a beat until the next line was spoken. It was so refreshing. And it made the lines that did get laughs seem funnier and more genuine.
As we ease out of the pandemic, multi-camera shows will again start filming in front of live audiences. Let’s hope producers write funny enough shows that no “Charley Douglass treatment” is ever needed.
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There’s a new show on AMC and AMC + (I didn’t know there was such a thing as AMC +) called KEVIN CAN GO F*** HIMSELF. (Is there anyone on the planet who does NOT know what the F*** stands for? If so, they’re pretty FUCKing dumb.)
The title is a send up of KEVIN CAN WAIT, the ill-fated Kevin James CBS show that went from highest rated new comedy in year one to cancelled in year two (a nifty trick indeed). In the typical family sitcom set up, Kevin was the buffoon husband and Erinn Hayes had the unenviable job of playing his tolerant wife. Eventually her character was unceremoniously killed after the first season (which some might argue was a little hostile and harsh for no reason). Guess who made the decision to explain away her departure with death? (Hint: He can go F*** himself.)
Playing the wife of a typical dufus sitcom husband (Tim Allen, Kevin James, Ray Romano, Bill Engvall, Sherman Hemsley, Jackie Gleason, Patrick Warburton, Jim Belushi, Drew Carey, Matt LeBlanc, Mark Addy, Anthony Anderson, and dozens more) is the world’s most thankless role. You’re either the wet blanket always scolding the star for wanting to sell their children for whiskey, or you go along bemused thus looking like an idiot yourself.
And rarely do you get to be funny. With the possible exception of Audrey Meadows’ Alice Kramden, the “voice of reason” is not funny.
My heart goes out to Erinn Hayes, and Nancy Travis, Jamie Gertz, Patricia Richardson, Patty Heaton, Courtney Thorne-Smith, Megyn Price, and all the others.
This new series is seen through the eyes of Allison McRoberts, as played by SCHITT’S CREEK Emmy winner, Annie Murphy. She’s the mom on a witless multi-cam sitcom starring “Kevin” (Eric Peterson). And she loathes it. But that supposedly is either a fantasy or alternate world because the other half of the show is apparently her real life marriage to Kevin, which is also a nightmare. Those scenes are played very dark.
The show is shot two ways — multi-cam when you’re watching the actual sitcom, and single-camera when the red light is off. So it’s a meta behind-the-scenes look at sitcoms and an exploration of a woman trapped in a horrible marriage. I haven’t seen it. Obviously, I’m curious and will give it a look.
It seems intriguing and odd. Will the sitcom scenes seem like a bit that wears out its welcome? And is there escape from either nightmare? There certainly is for the sitcom actress. She takes her money, quits the show, and does something else. Even if she sticks it out, it's only for a few years. Extricating yourself from a real abusive marriage is something else.
The premise is ambitious and I'm anxious to see it. I'm sure it'll be an interesting follow-up when I do.
Here’s one of those questions worthy of a Weekend Post.
I like writing stories and having my humor come out of characters and attitudes. I don’t enjoy just writing “jokes.”
Having to sit in a room and bang out fifty one-liners hoping I get one in is not why I became a writer.
My first "writing" job was coming up with jokes for Joan Rivers. I think I got $5 for every one she used. So basically $5 for every twenty jokes.
Not for me.
Mike Reiss, on my podcast, also said that THE TONIGHT SHOW was a revolving door, and that it was not uncommon to get fired once or maybe twice.
Not for me.
That said, there were some brilliant comedy writers who did work on THE TONIGHT SHOW, several who are friends. I greatly admire what they did. It just wasn’t my strength. Or interest.
From Yakimi:
A radio question: In all your radio travels, did you ever work at a station that had horribly outdated equipment? I mean, consoles that Fred Flintstone would have been using long before you got there?
Oh yes. My first job in radio. KERN, Bakersfield. I think it said “Hail to the Kaiser!” on the transmitter.
But here’s the irony: The station also had the best Chief Engineer in John Barcroft. So even though everything was old and outdated, the station ran like a top. And it sounded fantastic on the air.
I’ll take that over new state-of-the-art equipment that breaks down, needs to be rebooted, has glitches, and sounds lousy.
And finally, from Buttermilk Sky:
Friday question: Commercials. As someone who has written for movies and stage as well as TV, do you find it difficult to remember to break down scripts into ten-minute segments because of the ads? Or does it help you to structure the show?
It helps to structure the show. When I construct a story I’m always mindful of act breaks and the best, most suspenseful way of telling the story. Even if I did a show for a streaming platform with no commercials I would still create my own act breaks.
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Bill Whittaker from CBS looked like a guy who won a school raffle to host JEOPARDY.
Ironically, Anderson Cooper was the smoothest, most polished guest host, but his ratings were the worst. Ken Jennings still has the highest (non Tournament of Champions).
THE CHASE is a half-hour game show stretched to an hour.
Apple announced a new operating system. Every time they do that I cringe. When I update things suddenly programs and apps that used to work fine now don't. Stop "improving!"
What will get people back into movie theaters? IN THE HEIGHTS. It’s supposed to be great and in a recent Fandango poll of over 1300 moviegoers, 96% said that would be the first movie they’d go to see in a theater. Surprisingly, PETER RABBIT 2 did not score as high.
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I still contend that last year's baseball season was a joke. Teams played 60 games against weird divisions. Take the standings this year at 60 games and compare them with the final standings later this fall. How many teams that qualified at 60 games won't by season's end? And how many teams that didn't by game 60 ultimately will by game 162? How much of an advantage did the Dodgers have playing all their postseason games in Texas last year versus Tampa Bay that spent time in San Diego? Everything about the 2020 MLB season deserves a big asterisk.
TV sitcoms will be funnier this year, if for no other reason than writers will be together in one room again and not on Zoom. Zoom is the ice bucket challenge of comedy.
Please get vaccinated. Or move to Mississippi.
I do this from time to time. I've answered over 3,000 Friday Questions. It's one of the most popular features of this blog. But rarely do readers go way back into the archives. So occasionally I'll pull out a FQ post from ten years ago, knowing 99% of you haven't read it, and the few that have have long forgotten it. As NBC once said, "If you haven't seen a rerun it's new to you." So here are Friday Questions from 2011. Feel free to dive into the archives. There's some good stuff buried in there somewhere.
Alas, I am not a loud laugher. Especially at my own jokes.
Matt wants to know:
Who is on your Mt Rushmore of announcers. I know you will say Vin Scully (who wouldn’t) and you have just said Marc Albert. Who are the other two?
Vin Scully, Marv Albert, Chick Hearn (of the Lakers), and Bill King (Raiders, Warriors, A’s).
I don’t think anyone has ever called a better, more exciting football game on the radio than Bill King. He gave you chills.
Same for Chick Hearn and basketball on the radio. Most basketball expressions (like slam dunk) were invented by “Chicky baby.”
And while we’re on the subject of sportscasters, Jahn Ghalt wonders:
Where do you stand on broadcasters as they start to lose it, even the legends? Should they be allowed to stay on forever or should someone nudge them to the door at some point, and if so, how do you do that respectfully?
I think to protect them and their legacy, when iconic sportscasters start to lose it they should gracefully retire. It’s harder for broadcasters who have been with one team for many decades. Phasing them out might be one answer. Or if the announcer is really incapable of calling a game, someone has to make the hard call.
Hey, it's not a Supreme Court Justice. You're not entitled to these jobs for life.
I think you appeal to his pride. You want him to go out with dignity and remain beloved.
As the old saying goes, it’s better to leave a year too early than a year too late.
That said, I bet Vin Scully, (at 92) could still call a better game than 90% of the announcers out there.
And finally, from Brian:
I enjoyed your episode on writing. Have you ever been plagiarized? If so, what steps did you take?
Not any TV writing that I know of. Had that been the case I would consulted my attorney.
Before I had this blog, I would write snarky Oscar reviews and send them to my contact list. I found out that one radio talk show host on my list would go on the air and steal all of my material as if it was his own. Once I learned that he was promptly off my list.
In my disc jockey days, there was an LA DJ who listened to me in San Bernardino and stole my material. I learned this when I applied for a job at his station and the program director accused me of stealing his jock's material. That resulted in a very angry phone call from me.
Flash forward a few years and I’m on TenQ in Los Angeles every Saturday night. After six months on the air I got a call from that program director apologizing. He said, after listening to me and the quality and amount of my content it was clear I was the original and his disc jockey had stolen from me.
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Here’s a Friday Question that became an entire post. Warning: It’s about baseball.
KLAC Guy asks:
I have been reading comments by Don Mattingly and Reggie Jackson about their dissatisfaction with the way baseball is played today. Both said that many of today’s games are unwatchable due to the lack of offense and the high number of strikeouts. Yankees play by play announcer, Michael Kay, talks about it often on his talk show. If you were baseball’s commissioner, what changes would you make to make the games more entertaining?
Okay, some of these are radical.
First, I’d eliminate the shift.
I’d eliminate walk-up music. Get in there and hit.
I’d install a pitch clock. It works in the minors. Get the ball and throw it. And if you’re a hitter, stay in the box and hit. No more “Human rain delays.”
With two strikes, you get two foul balls. Any more than two and it’s a strike out. No more fouling off pitch after pitch.
An announcer friend made this suggestion that I would use. With a runner on first you get one throw over there. You may say that gives the runner an unfair advantage. If you think he’s going to steal, pitch out. There were teams last year who never needed to pitch out once.
You want fewer home runs? Move fences back. That also means outfielders have to cover more ground. More balls might drop in for singles and doubles.
Eliminate the stupid extra-inning rule where a runner starts at second base. Two sacrifices and the runner could score. That’s an unearned win in my book.
Challenges must take no more than three minutes. And if that doesn’t work, eliminate challenges. I’d rather see arguments in front of the fans than everyone sitting around for ten minutes while umpires review replays in New York.
Lose one commercial break per half inning. Charge more for the commercials to make up the difference.
If a pitcher warms up to begin an inning he has to face at least one batter. None of this Tony LaRussa shit where a pitcher warms up, then a pinch-hitter is announced, and he pulls the pitcher to bring in someone else, thus causing another three to four minute delay.
Study analytics before the game all you want, but during the game, no note cards.
No seven-inning double headers. This is the fucking big leagues.
I would fire Angel Hernandez, an absolute disgrace of an umpire.
A quicker hook for pitchers who throw at a batter on purpose. And an automatic one game suspension. Pitchers throw at 100 miles an hour now. They could really kill someone. Managers get ejected too. This also eliminates a number of brawls through the course of the season.
Along those same lines, any player who it is determined willfully tried to injure another (e.g. spikes up) get suspended for at least a week or more if it’s a repeat offense. Ty Cobb is dead.
I know. I’d be a hard-ass commissioner and the owners and players would be pissed at me. But the games would zip along and there would be way more action and you’d get home at a decent time. Unfortunately, no one has asked me to be the commissioner.